"Clash of the Continents" NA vs. EU (Kebir Blue)

Who is the overall commander of the Canadian armed forces? The Queen. You have a Prime Minister to take care of day to day events, but the Queen is your ultimate ruler.

yes exactly stuart i said it i the other post that i feal more loyal to the brittish. than the states we did burn the whitehouse down in the war of 1812 would be fun to do it again

Stuart,That may have been so a very long time ago but i assure u,the queen has nothing to do with our politics.Shane,the airport is only a dew hours away,lol,Brits everywhere await your arrival,hehe. Stu ,will you be joining this contest?

Andy, you obviously don't know your own governments set up all that well. Part of the constitution of the British commonwealth (of which Canada is a part), is that all member nations are required to fight for the sovereignity of the British crown if asked to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Canada

Read the bit about Executive power.....

Its exactly the same story in all of these too;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations_by_name

Although we are a commonwealth now as opposed to an empire, The Queen is still classed as the head of state of almost a 3rd of our worlds countries. We had the worlds largest empire, but now we have the worlds largest commonwealth, all (at least in principle) ruled by Her Majesty The Queen. We may only be a small nation, but we built the worlds greatest ever empire, and that is still very apparent today.

So there!

As regards the contest, no. Sorry, but I have a lot on at the moment in RL. Thanks anyway.

come on stuart!! show what ur made of! we need more people to come and join in this fight! legaly the queen owns us but physicaly i dont know it defenetly would depend on how it started. if under any curcumstances the states invaded i would be grabbing my 303 and watching and waiting

And who is going to enforce this constitution when the war breaks out? Wikipedia?

Face it, the British will have far too much on their hands with a war against the US to threaten Canada. Canada would stand to lose much more if they fought against the US. They'd probably stay neutral unless the purpose of the war was great enough.

That's my thoughts anyways. We'll probably never know.

Anyways, I thought the crown was more of a nominal ruler than an ultimate ruler. How far do her powers extend? Could she, say, end the war in Iraq if she wanted to?

BC

"And who is going to enforce this constitution when the war breaks out? Wikipedia?" LOL, well said!

Rules questions: once the war starts, can participants declare on any c3 in the region, or just those bordering the participant's or the side's countries? Seems to me if you could declare on any c3s it all comes down to who's quicker on the draw. Also, has it been decided what constitutes victory?

Just trying to determine how long this game may take. Barney's coming to town and all that, you know.

(at least in principle) ,,,thats My point ,thanks for making it ,lol. She is a figure head,period. She as Great Brittan ,have no say in any Of our countries affairs whatsoever. Dont get me wrong,I love GB,been there several times but there are only emotinal ties at this point. thats it for me on this topic,we seem to have gotten off the point of this thread. Come on people join in on the fun,it will be nice to fight in a friendly situation for a change,lol. Resp,,AC

to point out canada did not join in on the war in iraq and legaly the bittish soldures would have to stand down and do as she says

come on andy let fight vali! and other unamed europeans u know u want to...

If Canada sides with the British, what about hockey? Hockey is a hard-core passion in Canada. What about the rival of the United States teams in the NHL. Go Detroit Red Wings! Do they play soccer on frozen ponds in Canada?

As far the war game goes, I've been scouting the region for a nice C3. I plan on playing on the North American side. It will be fun to launch thousands of missiles at Vali. It would be fun to launch some at Atilla because he's on the fence. Some not so friendly fire might curve over to Andy.

Jo Jo, I thought Santa was coming to town. Or has been in town. Whatever, I'm old and have been bad... Barney doesn't come to town. He's that child-loving purple herbivorous dinosaur.

This sounds like good fun. Im up for the fight. Would the leader of EU contact me in game? The countries Vanguard. Thanks.

Haha, ever hear the alternate version of the Barney song, the one kids sing after they're past the Barney-loving age?

We have Ice Hockey over here too Dave. Our league is called the EHL (English Hockey League). OK, it's not as big over here as it is in North America, but teams such as Coventry Blaze (the biggest in EHL) regulary attract upto 30,000 spectators. My team, Telford Tigers on the other hand are lucky if they can muster 2,000.

We have quite a few ex NHL players over here now too, but it is a mostly amateur sport.

The Queen is actually Commander in Chief of all British and Commonwealth forces. If she ordered our troops to stand down, they would have to do as they were told. The commonwealth forces would also (at least in theory) have to aswell.

Anyone with any sense of history would agree that the UK would fight with USA and Canada against the EU :P

I'm up for this .. will take over a C3 sometime soon.

Rock and roll,This is comming together very nicely Danneh,glad to have you in my sight big fella.lol. [As they start to square off,hehehe] Syuart,My younger brother played for the Themes river tigers,[basketball,and Im not to sure about the real name of the ball club] His name is Stewart Clark,He was quite good look him up if ya want. Oh Davie ma boy,My rebels might have a suprise for you to ,lmao Enjoy the holidays EVERYONE. ac

We need to sort the rules out before I do something that I should'nt.

I think that because the population will not be increased, there will already be a limit to how many weapons you can have. Meaning regardless to how many assets are in your country, if you hav'nt the man power, you ain't doing nothing with them.
I think it would be also too hard to up hold any other rules other than the ones below.

One country per person until its hammer time.
No population transfers.
No Strategic Weapons.
No other feds aloud on battlefield.
No navies?
Europe left. North America right.
The war should begin when each side has 3 countries out of war protection.
All non participants in Canis and the surrounding area are not to be bothered. Any fighter found bothering these leaders will have there country taken off them.
Any fighter found transfering population will face a warning and will be notified after investigation, how many schools, hospitals and factories they will have to destroy.

We can spend as many Gold coins as we want, other than on population transfers. (population transfers are easy to check up on)
We can transfer money, buy weapons and swap workers with any other country we own on FB or any other fed members countries.
Remember, without man power, assets will only be limited help.
I think with these limited rules and freedoms we should have a war without suspicion.

What do you lot think?
Remember, it's not going to be long until 3 countries on either side will be without war protection.
And then, unless you think otherwise, it will be Hammer Time.

Victory to the EU

Looks like this is going to be lots of fun and a learning experience for some.

Thats what I'm saying, and if we get 25 fighters on each side, I think policing any rules, apart from the basics, would be imposible.
BorderC, I don't think Valis going to be around for a couple of days and by that time the war will be nearly upon us. If the basics arn't in place now, players might break the rules with out knowing it. Giving them an unfair advantage over players with similar countries.

You guys play your game. Ill not come back soon enough to impact your play.

Have fun.

-B

I know everybody (especially nix) is anxious to get this competition on but I'm of the opinion we should wait a few days at least. People will be most available after Christmas. I suggest that we begin the war on Sunday, December 28 at 8pm GMT which would be Dec 28 2pm CST in the states. I'm not sure when that means we need to declare. Somebody will need to figure that out.
As for rules.
It will be up to each team's leader to inform and enforce the rules. Vali for the EU and me for NA.

- This is a friendly competition first. This is not a real war. We're doing this for fun and continental pride. Be sportsmanlike in your conduct.

- All European countries name must start with EU. All North American must start with NA. Even C3s that are captured. We have to be able to identify targets and innocents.

- Limit of one country in the region before WAR (not just decs) starts.

- EU in the West (left) NA in the East (right).

- This war is limited to KB|Virgina Bella|Canis. Don't go outside of the region. Other feds should not be involved. This is independent of your empire or other objectives in FB.

- No Strategic Weapons, no navies, no transfers of any kind from other countries. Don't get other countries involved.

- GC usage is limited to 25 GC. That should be PLENTY for weapons and population. Correct? As stated before, it's better keep other countries out of this. We don't want to get too invested in this. People will start taking it personal and others will claim cheating leading to a suspect conclusion.

- Financial Indexes and Assets should be kept open (not secret). This will provide the best check we can have on cheating.

- It may be that at the conclusion of the competition we have interest in doing it again immediately or some time later. So, at the end we will decide how to return the C3s to the losing side or abandon them. Once we've finished we'll have a better idea of how this can work out. Also, if we do this again (revenge matches) we may change the rules to fit the competition as it develops.


Any comments, suggestions, complaints? We'll hopefully be able to agree on something soon so we can start.

East Siiiiide.

BC

PS. I'm looking forward to this as a great training exercise. If we can get enough vets and beginners in here it would be great for everybody.

the 28th is a great start date! as for fleets i cant see why they cant be used if ya want them,they wont be to effective in the amount of time we have to build anyhow. Im ok with 25 coins,but a realistic number would in my opinion be 10,keepo it even and simple,good clean fun nice job gents in working this out! AC the grunt.lol

um it is on FB not KB as stated above

Yes.... FB. My mistake... Thanks Shane.

Will 10GC (roughly 6 - 8 trillion) be enough to buy the weapons needed or population? I don;t know enough about these things. I figured we be spending more than that on ammo alone....

BC

'No Strategic Weapons, no navies, no transfers of any kind from other countries. Don't get other countries involved.'

How will we be able to police the rule on no transfers of any kind from other countries?

I mean, say I transfer some weapons or swap some HTE for MLM, how will you be able to tell?
Especialy if we get 50 players playing?

Honor is the way ,also if anyone starts winning to well,it would be a tip off.country indexs are easy to see as well. this is a eun war why cheat