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Krash3970
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13 Aug 2012 11:35Link
my final post. hey Drew, you're the kinda guy who gets his teeth knocked out by someone like me for that mouth of yours and you don't understand why. wish i had all that money back payed in fines for those good times. nah, second thought, it was worth every cent. something not understood is me and those like me never fought anything for people like you Drew. we fought for loved ones. to keep them safe at all cost was the biggest reason. i'm proud to say i have 4 sons who followed that path as well and all saw iraq. still have one in afganistan for that matter. something you wouldn't know about but it's something special to swap war stories with a son who almost came home in a box. it gives you a better appeciation for life and your loved ones as well. if you never had a near death expierience from combat you can not even begin to understand where i'm comeing from. my family along with friends celebrate independence day for what it i
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Steven Ryan
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13 Aug 2012 11:48Link
Hey krash u dont have to worry about keeping anyone safe their in no danger its the countries that are invaded for money and oil there the ones fighting for thier lives.
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Tom Morgan
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13 Aug 2012 12:40Link
Ok. Too many posts to read, so I'll outline what I meant when I said that stuff about Al Qaeda.
Amongst Al Qaeda's primary beliefs is that Israel should not be a recognised state, and that they are on Palestinian land. They see anyone who supports Israel as a target, thus 9/11. Crafty, saying that Israel and Sept. 11 aren't related is nieve.
Rick is making me angry...
"Take a poll, of the women sentenced to death by stoning in the upcoming months. Tell us what they did to deserve that and what they have to say about holding on to beliefs.
There is a primitive tribe in New Guinea that is still practicing cannibalism."
And should the West take it upon themselves to force their own views upon others with their own customs? No. How would you like it if Muslims invaded the USA and forced you to adopt their system of government, because I promise you it's the exact same in
Amongst Al Qaeda's primary beliefs is that Israel should not be a recognised state, and that they are on Palestinian land. They see anyone who supports Israel as a target, thus 9/11. Crafty, saying that Israel and Sept. 11 aren't related is nieve.
Rick is making me angry...
"Take a poll, of the women sentenced to death by stoning in the upcoming months. Tell us what they did to deserve that and what they have to say about holding on to beliefs.
There is a primitive tribe in New Guinea that is still practicing cannibalism."
And should the West take it upon themselves to force their own views upon others with their own customs? No. How would you like it if Muslims invaded the USA and forced you to adopt their system of government, because I promise you it's the exact same in
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Tom Morgan
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13 Aug 2012 12:51Link
"@Tom Morgan
"And I'm not being insensitive." Why??..because you say your not.
"Just looking at it from a lateral point of view" Really, what's your lateral point of view?
"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction." In physics that's a true story.
The "entire Arab world" was not involved in the attack, Al Queda was.
And finally, the guy who "made them angry enough to fly planes into buildings", has left the planet.
Over three thousand people died that day Tom. Those people had very little to do with middle eastern politics.
I think your post is not only insensitive, it's offensive to normal sensibilities.
"America and Israel, who single-handedly have pissed off the entire Arab world."
Go back to the creation of Israel, you can practically reach back and touch it. Consider the history of armed conflict between Israel a
"And I'm not being insensitive." Why??..because you say your not.
"Just looking at it from a lateral point of view" Really, what's your lateral point of view?
"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction." In physics that's a true story.
The "entire Arab world" was not involved in the attack, Al Queda was.
And finally, the guy who "made them angry enough to fly planes into buildings", has left the planet.
Over three thousand people died that day Tom. Those people had very little to do with middle eastern politics.
I think your post is not only insensitive, it's offensive to normal sensibilities.
"America and Israel, who single-handedly have pissed off the entire Arab world."
Go back to the creation of Israel, you can practically reach back and touch it. Consider the history of armed conflict between Israel a
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maclean
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13 Aug 2012 14:31Link
steve ryan, you know nothing about it. Nothing. (Remainder of post deleted by author as being probably inflammatory, and pointless)
@ Tom morgan: so then did you respect the native customs and chow down on "long pig", or not? If not, Why not? Don't you feel you should honor the customs of other cultures? (If you did partake, how was it? Did they serve him grilled or boiled? just curious
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@ Tom morgan: so then did you respect the native customs and chow down on "long pig", or not? If not, Why not? Don't you feel you should honor the customs of other cultures? (If you did partake, how was it? Did they serve him grilled or boiled? just curious
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Drew
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13 Aug 2012 19:17Link
26 as of today. Most people didn't undergo the lifestyle I lived at the time. why do you think I called them crazy and why i used different time continously. And when the conversation moves to socio-political grounds differences in income is the biggest issue holding us back. And as a well to do person, that wants taxes raised it was relevance. You call me spoiled yet if you search my beginnings you will see that my hometown has half the city as foreclosed homes, a graduation rate of under 50%, and tons of violent crime. You simply want me to look bad just because it makes you look dominate in the discussion thats stupid. Assuming I had no way of learning to defend myself is a simple baseless arguments. I worked hard to get the things I wanted for myself.
And Krash it's unfornuate the things that have befalled you, and you have my condolecsenses however it doesn't change the truth. The things you and your family had done weren
And Krash it's unfornuate the things that have befalled you, and you have my condolecsenses however it doesn't change the truth. The things you and your family had done weren
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Alexandrov Stolin
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13 Aug 2012 22:12Link
I agree drew we need to be more isolationist.
but don't blame the soldiers or the country because its actually the politicians and government
tom I'm becoming angry you are defending evil backward parts of societys in the name of respecting culture....and its not the same in the middle east at all those people are being subjugated by sadistic narcissist men who were a bigger threat to their own Muslim culture then America ever was you think afgahnistan wanted to be ruled by the Taliban? no the Taliban forced upon the populace an extremist form of sharia law and they outlawed many practices that were once part of typikal afgahnistan culture what did we do force elections upon them?
but don't blame the soldiers or the country because its actually the politicians and government
tom I'm becoming angry you are defending evil backward parts of societys in the name of respecting culture....and its not the same in the middle east at all those people are being subjugated by sadistic narcissist men who were a bigger threat to their own Muslim culture then America ever was you think afgahnistan wanted to be ruled by the Taliban? no the Taliban forced upon the populace an extremist form of sharia law and they outlawed many practices that were once part of typikal afgahnistan culture what did we do force elections upon them?
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Alexandrov Stolin
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13 Aug 2012 22:13Link
and kasper your being a bigot
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Crafty
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14 Aug 2012 02:06Link
Shut up T. You cant justify 9/11 by saying AQ didnt like US supported Israel. The Israel situation seems extremely complex. I do not fully understand it and what I do hear reported is going to biased, but so far I can see both sides of that fight.
And the muslim world did aggressively take over a large chunk of the world. They finally ran out of steam in southern Europe. You know how close GB became to being Muslim? Sharia law is practiced here and the good old tolerant Brits turn a blind eye to a lot of it. Only recently are we clamping down on forced marriages and honour killings.
But thats all irrelevant. You and drew are sounding the naive here. Yankee called drew out and I say the same to you, its a shame I have to be like that because I like the brief convos we normally have on lighter topics. Yous both use the same old high school debating group ideas. Get wise guys.
And the muslim world did aggressively take over a large chunk of the world. They finally ran out of steam in southern Europe. You know how close GB became to being Muslim? Sharia law is practiced here and the good old tolerant Brits turn a blind eye to a lot of it. Only recently are we clamping down on forced marriages and honour killings.
But thats all irrelevant. You and drew are sounding the naive here. Yankee called drew out and I say the same to you, its a shame I have to be like that because I like the brief convos we normally have on lighter topics. Yous both use the same old high school debating group ideas. Get wise guys.
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 02:15Link
Whats GB?
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 02:16Link
By the way, back to the original point of this thread, there was another shooting today thats making headlines
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Crafty
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14 Aug 2012 02:21Link
GB - Great Britain, with an emphasis on 'Great'.
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 02:27Link
Ohhh. Do ya'll watch American College Football there? I've been wondering this, i know you can see the Superbowl.
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Crafty
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14 Aug 2012 02:42Link
Some games are shown but the time difference and the fact football (American style) is young here make it a bit obscure. Not big time, no, like I dont know anyone who could talk about it. Even NFL games.
I was in San Francisco when the '49ers won the Superbowl. Wow, what a street party that night.
I also managed to get the Raiders home games on satellite in a bar I worked security in, against all the NBC, ABC etc networks saying it couldn't be done. Their execs came to the bar to see it for themselves! Packed the place I did, then they jammed it
I was in San Francisco when the '49ers won the Superbowl. Wow, what a street party that night.
I also managed to get the Raiders home games on satellite in a bar I worked security in, against all the NBC, ABC etc networks saying it couldn't be done. Their execs came to the bar to see it for themselves! Packed the place I did, then they jammed it
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 02:49Link
My States won the last 3 National Titles. I love football. I need to find someone in this game i can talk ball with. Are you from here or did you just visit a while or do some work here?
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Crafty
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14 Aug 2012 03:02Link
Spent 7 years there. SoCal. Sorry, cant talk much about football, no knowledge, but I know there are a lot of big fans on here.
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 03:10Link
Southern Cal? Holy crap, their voted to go to the BCS this year, of course that is if they run the gaunlet. My Bama is pretty much the reigning Kings of college ball right now. Had several players go in the first round of the NFL draft this year. Im hoping we can pull it off another year. Im loving it! Anyway i was just curious.
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Lorelei
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14 Aug 2012 04:19Link
Kasper, I would also direct you to Serpent for ball discussions. He and a player named Slade loved talkin' sports. Although I am not sure if Slade is still in the game. They growled when I tried to turn the convos to girlie topics. lol
If you wish to ever discuss shoes, I'm always available. :P
Another good Sim Deed today. A referral. :-)
If you wish to ever discuss shoes, I'm always available. :P
Another good Sim Deed today. A referral. :-)
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Kasper Quinn
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14 Aug 2012 04:30Link
Hopefully they'll find their way to the conversation. If not, i'll defintly be posting a thread about Spetember 1st. Kick off day is amongst us
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Rick
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14 Aug 2012 11:50Link
Tom and Drew,
I took a course in semantics a long while ago.
The professor said this one day.
"Consider everything you don't and can't know about everything."
When you give that statement some thought I believe you have to acknowledge it is accurate.
It is so accurate a person could think there wasn't very much at all that he was qualified to discuss in an intelligent manner.
But that is hardly ever the case. We discuss, debate and argue about almost anything.
The problem, as I see it, is that people start using absolute statements. Absolute statements rather preclude discussion and create an argument without end.
So Tom, I don't know why I was making you angry.
For the most part I was asking why you felt the way you do and a couple of statements I thought were just plane false.
Your quote:
"What would have been different? A less-arrogant Israel
I took a course in semantics a long while ago.
The professor said this one day.
"Consider everything you don't and can't know about everything."
When you give that statement some thought I believe you have to acknowledge it is accurate.
It is so accurate a person could think there wasn't very much at all that he was qualified to discuss in an intelligent manner.
But that is hardly ever the case. We discuss, debate and argue about almost anything.
The problem, as I see it, is that people start using absolute statements. Absolute statements rather preclude discussion and create an argument without end.
So Tom, I don't know why I was making you angry.
For the most part I was asking why you felt the way you do and a couple of statements I thought were just plane false.
Your quote:
"What would have been different? A less-arrogant Israel
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Drew
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14 Aug 2012 18:26Link
Rick, accordig to David Hume, we have no way of understanding anything we don't experience. Everything we think of our ideas, (that come from our experiences in some way or another) and they build several volitions (combinitions of ideas that form basically an opinion), and finally we make our judgements based on those volitions.
When people don't gain new experience they will not grow a more concise volition to make better judgements. In other words sometimes you have to be involved in stuff you know absoletely nothing about. Sometimes to get a full understanding you still need to share complete nonsense that makes sense to you. But you are partially right (absolute statements) many people lock their volitions in place and are resistant to new ideas. To summarize there is nothing wrong speaking with absolution as long as you aren't closing off your mind to new ideas.
Sorry it was kind of long most
When people don't gain new experience they will not grow a more concise volition to make better judgements. In other words sometimes you have to be involved in stuff you know absoletely nothing about. Sometimes to get a full understanding you still need to share complete nonsense that makes sense to you. But you are partially right (absolute statements) many people lock their volitions in place and are resistant to new ideas. To summarize there is nothing wrong speaking with absolution as long as you aren't closing off your mind to new ideas.
Sorry it was kind of long most
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Rick
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14 Aug 2012 21:06Link
Drew, I agree with David Hume, and most of what you had to say. I would guess that that is pretty much how the thought process works, or should work.
I still take exception to absolutes. I think the message there is "This is the way it is, no room for discussion."
If a person has an open mind, why would they be speaking in absolutes in the first place?
And use your spell checker. It's plane to see you'll only make as many mistakes as me.
I still take exception to absolutes. I think the message there is "This is the way it is, no room for discussion."
If a person has an open mind, why would they be speaking in absolutes in the first place?
And use your spell checker. It's plane to see you'll only make as many mistakes as me.