Moderator Elections Approaching?

I'll post my question again for those of us who were in the middle of this conversation...

So, what do you guys think about the term length? I'm thinking 1 year is too short and I'm wondering if 2 years would be too long. I'm leaning more in the direction of 2.
If you already commented and you were censored please take the time to post again. I, for one, am interested.


Please, watch the language, no smileys outside those offered in [formatting] or unnecessary characters of any kind. I would like to be able to have a functioning conversation.

i think six months would be good.

the reason for the shorter time is that:
1. moderators might get old on the job; other interests intervene.
2. players would have more input into moderators actions if the time was shorter.
3. moderators could run again.
4. it would make the players feel more involved in the game.

whatever might happen i think the moderators job should be passed around. the moderator has a great deal of power to censor anything they want without cause and to ban a player. it makes for an unhealthy game.

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LMAO!


Here we are Parsifal! lol

Hmm... Seems to me that the more the position gets passed around the less coveted it becomes, less desired. 6 months may be long enough though. It seems awful often.

I happen to think Laguna is fair. Everyone has moments from time to time. It would be hard to replace him with someone more fair or with the same overall quality. I'm not excusing anyone's gripes I'm just saying, if Laguna wasn't moderator, no doubt complaints would be more severe or skyrocket.

Voting could be manipulated. We all know there are multi accounts and who is to say how the vote could be fairly implemented? The integrity of the simvote would bring to question the results.

If a vote was agreed on, then one year seems fair. For another moderator, Laguna would have to remain as backup. His term of service now is not matched and I doubt many would have the integrity or commitment to do the job for as long as he has. Not barring the last complaint, I think if we vote for a moderator, it should be an interim moderator with the primary purpose of alleviating Laguna of the primary moderator role. He needs a break and has other commitments like everyone else and it would be appropriate to have a checks and balance system. So if we do vote for anther moderator, it wouldn't necessarily remove Laguna from the role, just free him up to do his own things and leave him in place to deal with the more severe cases where moderation is needed. I don't want to see a new moderator voted on, then 5 or 6 months in say "I quit" then we are left with a vacuum, and then w3 would rollback to Laguna their default, and give up on interim moderators. If someone quits, Laguna would still be there. Jonni Gil is a moderator too, I only see him post once every 6 months if we are lucky, do you see what I mean.

Solomon Grundy

No one cares about your threads or your random old news thread bumps. I happen to think laguna is VERY fair and never has given me cause to dout him. If you don't like the game do what Dubletar did LEAVE AND MAKE UR OWN.

I agree with wendy voting can be manipulated by mult's. Which makes me wonder didn't you have a history of being a mult if not i'm sorry and i apologize for the incorrect information.

SG--i'll just ride my ass into battle with you.
i'm the little guy.
PH--maybe the Portugese economy has temporarily addled him, but can he dance.

From Don Quixote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zFSp3C6kg

Look over the last year of posts and judge how often a moderator has been needed. I just got back and have been going through posts, I can think of one time I noticed a moderator speak up and he posted "boarderline", you've seen it.

They aren't NEEDED all that often, especially since I'm allowed to post videos dropping the F bomb. (yet not discuss changing aspects of the game, and reasons are clear) so no, where does this idea that it's a good idea to keep... Look, you said integrity, right? That is defined as adhering to a moral value system, I ask you, what moral value system can you think of that tells Laguna it's okay to do what he's doing/done? It's funny, honestly? the one that comes to MY mind is the Nazi belief system. I mean it doesn't look buddist hundu or muslim to me.

I am definately not of the 'union' mentality. Lay off the hard worker simply because the slacker has been there for so many years longer. That's to say, because we've been putting up with the slacker for so long that the slacker should be rewarded and keep his job? After a new players green period time in game is next to irrelevant in my book.

another vote of confidence for LG

i have no doubt for his concern for the game, or the players

further, i can never remember the term, but to create a problem and blame it on a political rival... i forget the term

stop acting obnoxiously, and maybe you wont feel as if LG abuses his power. or if you still do, maybe more people will listen to you

Hey if you don't support choosing your own moderator that's cool... no reason to get hot under the collar.

You read what was censored, you know it doesn't matter if he's the best moderator in the world, keep electing him then, campaign for him. I already know that he could get me to vote for him if he had the right attitude, but that would never happen. I'm only one vote. There's nothing for Laguna to fear if he's all you claim.

It's not about Laguna, it's simply a better game if we get to have interactive elections and participate more. Simple as that, this just happened to have given birth to it that's all. I can agree that Laguna should have deleted every post he did and more, and this is still true.

Orbiter, I'm going to ask you to demonstrate the "acting obnoxiously", you know that. How does did the thread "Attn Moderator" start out?

*wishes Solomon had a mute button*

180's since the censor/edit? Wow, I'm glad we have real time readers.

No, that's cool, I'll drop it. (So I guess the answer to the thread question will be 'no there won't be' lol)

solomon grundy

first, the concept of moderator elections... seems fair, but so far i haven't seen abuse

obnoxious,

1.
highly objectionable or offensive; odious: obnoxious behavior.
2.
annoying or objectionable due to being a showoff or attracting undue attention to oneself: an obnoxious little brat.
3.
Archaic. exposed or liable to harm, evil, or anything objectionable.
4.
Obsolete. liable to punishment or censure; reprehensible.

so reread #2, (and probably #4) how many dead threads that contain tons of hurt feels have you resurrected? accidently doing it, once or twice, ok, but your behavior, at least on the forums, has indeed been obnoxious.

Honestly? I haven't either Orbiter.

However there does need to be some reaction to way things are being pursued. Now, I can believe that it's not as I beleive, that it's a popularity/attention issue, but that it may be an annoyance issue. Laguna doesn't like me 'hyper-posting' and dominating converastions. I can believe that THIS is why, but as of now I'm not leaning in that direction.

I jumped into a conversation in a thread Laguna started, you may remember, he posted something like "you're hijacking my thread solomon but whatever". I don't believe he was right but I chose to humble myself and appologize- which he ignored. This made me lose respect for him. I knew that if he could/would not accept an honest appology that he would not be able to ever give one either.

See?
The truth of the matter is that the birds of a feather thing is true. Liars have liars for friends, (I swear I'm not attacking) theives have theives for friends, my point is... When somoene demonstrates behavoirs that aren't in line with your own you tend to gravitate away and in some cases you would rather not be in their company at all. So going into this there are perceptions at play.

Anyway, yeah, lets drop it. Moderators aren't needed except for political muscle. I get it. (if they aren't impartial then this is the way it is)

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Absolutely! Don't tell me that you didn't talk about Janet Jacking pulling her tittie out at the Superbowl!

Don't tell me people didn't talk about Brittany shaving her head (that obnoxious little brat) lol

Dude... come on! lol

I vote for Laguna

a fact in this world, good looking females can get away with an awful lot. i don't think you fall into that catagory

You'd be suprised when you're boss is female ;)

Everyone here Loves Laguna, that is a fact. If we think it would be beneficial for another moderator to be voted in to assist or sit in for Laguna when he isn't around, that is fair. SuperSoldier, stop talking to Solomon like a child. He's a grown man and the first time you posted was really really ignorant. What you said about Solomon has BEEN said about you by the same people whos asses you kiss everyday in chat. I'm not even going to say anything else.

Solomon has a RIGHT to voice any concern he wants regardless if we agree or not. He asked for a vote. I think if you all refrain from attacking him, and vote, you would let the vote speak for itself instead of looking real immature. I didn't see all of you running your mouth when you figured out that Whiteboy pushed the gms to probably the worst change in sc history. But you are all ganging up on someone asking for a vote. Did we get a "VOTE' for war levels? Can we get one now? You people need to calm your anger and find the right outlet for it.

oh... and WHAT?!

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how many dead threads that contain tons of hurt feels have you resurrected?<!-/Quote-!>

uh... zero... do you have hurt feelings that you can't convey? do you need a hug? what the [bleep] are you talking about?

If I did, I don't know it.

Oh, you think keeping war information around for people to read is bad... don't bottle it up, say something! I bumped them only for a who's been fighting who, that's all.

The resurrected threads are all good history and a barrel of laughs. It was good reading all the old arguments and stuff. It made me realize how much I miss these people that were here when I started the game and how empty and void it is now. It also gives the present makeup of sim something to model on. Without conflict or anything like that, this game gets real boring. I won't even lie, I can get more satisfaction from playing any number of console or PC games. But this forum.... is PRICELESS. And that is why I pay that 48 bucks with a smile.

Start passing out the 'brownie points' Laguna lol