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Does anyone else feel like a race war is brewing?

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SeizeForce

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22 Aug 2016 23:40Link
I suspect you live in the red states I mentioned above, Johanas. Perhaps you should consider refraining from voting ever again.
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Eugene Mac

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23 Aug 2016 03:44Link
Wow, Siezeforce you didn't read the rest of the article, did you? Or were you just trying to prove a point? I encourage everyone to go to http://ijr.com/2015/01/230371-2-map-shows-red-states-rely-federal-aid-looks-can-deceiving/ to read it for themselves.

Just a couple of things. The biggest welfare areas are cities that have been democratic for decades. Cities and states even run by Republicans are doing much better.

The issue of same sex marriage is the issue of the state defining a religious term. What the state is really regulating is a joint legal status and that is what they should call it.

Thirdly, A fetish in not just a woman's body because it took part of a man to get her pregnant. And what about the rights of the father not to mention the person inside of her? And if you want to say that it is not legally a person t
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SeizeForce

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23 Aug 2016 04:44Link
"The biggest welfare areas are cities that have been democratic for decades. Cities and states even run by Republicans are doing much better."

NOWHERE in the article was this mentioned. You have any proof to show for it?
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SeizeForce

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23 Aug 2016 04:48Link
Also, here it is, can't blame city leaders now anymore.

"In 1996 the Republican Congress passed a reform law signed by President Clinton that gave the control of the welfare system back to the states. The Federal government provides assistance through TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families). TANF is a grant given to each state to run their own welfare program."

The welfare system is controlled by state leaders. States that are controlled by Republican leaders can determine how the use of welfare is done, so why is it that they're horrible at managing their own states and relying on the federal government?
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Ă–ster Schwan

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23 Aug 2016 11:00Link
@Zen " If you want to be controlled go to a left wing country like Germany." <.<

Dont say anything about a country you've never been to nor have the knowledge about the Political system of Germany in the Past and Present. I am a German I know more about the Political system of Europe more than you probably ever would try to learn.

Also *Historical fact, after WW1 and the German Monarch was disbanded Germany went into a Democratic state called the Weimar Republik, in a Parlamentary system ruled by SDP (Sozialdemokratische Partei) Social Democratic Party (They still "rule" today) The reason as to why the Nazis gained control is similar as to what is happening to many Western nations today, with radical ideas making headlines and talks of "knowing what is actually going on in the govt" the National Socialist Party (Nazis) destroyed the Democratic system by doing many things to
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marshal.ney

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23 Aug 2016 18:06Link
Free college tuition ended in the 1960s. I just missed it. However, for compensation, I did receive a first round draft pick by the US Army. Free college is not an UnAmerican idea. Many institutions had free tuition, with only incidental costs.

Social Security has always been a Ponzi scheme. Thank you FDR. The reason it's not solvent is two fold. First, the false premise that birth rates would continue to increase, allowing the Ponzi scheme to flourish. Second, that fact that it is constantly raided by the Government to pay for other things. Our National debt is not only what the Government owes outside entities, it also is what it owes itself.

On the German note... More Germans wanted the NSDP in power then other factions, at least initially. They did win elections. However, let's not confuse the NSDP and Hitler. There was a party before Hitler took it over. And their ideals weren't that far fetched for the time.
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SeizeForce

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23 Aug 2016 18:59Link
I have looked through that opinion piece site and it's been nothing more than a blatant attempt to ignore critical information.

It says Congress has the power of the purse but then ignores that "In 1996 the Republican Congress passed a reform law signed by President Clinton that gave the control of the welfare system back to the states. The Federal government provides assistance through TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families)."

Again, it gave control of the welfare system back to the states. Now, you want to look at how those states vote for their state leaders? Well, let's keep in mind that Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, the top 3 welfare recipients are still heavily republican dominated states.

The article's entire argument is based on the crucial information that Congress controls welfare, which is incorrect to say the least.
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marshal.ney

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24 Aug 2016 02:16Link
Definitely a point. I'll look into it in more depth. Missisippi you are definitely right. 32/20 split. Republican majority the last 7 or so years.
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Eugene Mac

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24 Aug 2016 02:47Link
The point of the article, as with all statistics, it all depends on how your compare the numbers. Yes, some states have historically high unemployment and poverty. I think many locations have more to do with whose in the state house.

Oh, and by the way, the federal government may send the money to the states but don't think for an instance that they don't set most of the rules.

Proof of democratic city failures? Well, given that most really large cities are democratic and most rural areas are republican. But just take a look at places like Atlanta, Detroit, Oakland, Gary, Cleveland, Washington DC - need I list more? Yes, there are many issues going on in some of these towns but laying the flame on Republicans is bogus.

Marshal, you do make some good points and I agree with a lot that Wicked Lady said. I have been to Europe multiple times and would not say it is all bad. I was surprised at how clean London was when I was t
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marshal.ney

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24 Aug 2016 04:57Link
mmm. I go along with a lot of what ya say Eugene. But if Trump isn't one of the puppets, he's one of the puppeteers. I don't think he can claim to be an outsider, after buying so many of the folks on the inside. That said, I'd rather see him then Hillary in, since my candidate doesn't have a chance.
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SeizeForce

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24 Aug 2016 05:28Link
Eugene, you cannot blame city leaders either, as I have said, welfare programs are done under state authorities.

And marshal, what makes you think Trump will be able to work or control congress? He's insulted every single one of them. They'd sooner work with Hillary than him. In fact, they'd actually let Obama do whatever he wishes.

With Trump, even Paul Ryan the new Speaker of House had made Trump his "bitch" for lack of a better word. You can see this with his backpedaling, apologizing to Paul, and then endorsing him with Paul ryan immediately coming back to criticize and insult him even more. Trump doesn't have a spine. And he even just TODAY backpedaled on his immigration plans and said, I quote, make it more similar to Obama's.
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The_Wicked_Lady

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24 Aug 2016 18:50Link
SeizeForce,

I'm not THAT old and there won't be social security for when I reach that eligible age, which is 15 to 20 years off. So, what do you have to say to that? I've paid in lots of money, MY money, for my future, but it won't be there. I don't rely on the government, thus why I have my own personal retirement plan. And, why do I have what I have? I have worked for it. It is not my generation who has done this to social security. It has been the federal government misspending the money and paying for those who DON'T work.
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Eugene Mac

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24 Aug 2016 23:40Link
SiezeForce, you are missing my point. Many historically Democratically run cities are in major trouble. Illinois, democratic for I don't know how long, is in major financial trouble, not to mention California. Most cities doing well now are run by Republicans. While this might not always be true throughout history it is at the moment.

I don't expect Trump to control Congress. That's not the president's job. His job, which presidents seem to forget lately, is to run the government bodies, not do Congress's job. I would be happy if he did just that well.
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SeizeForce

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25 Aug 2016 05:31Link
"Most cities doing well now are run by Republicans". This statement is laughable.

You mean cities like Portland, San Francisco, Boston, Miami, are all struggling? You're delusional.

Republican run cities are the cities NO ONE wants to visit. Every single city that is a tourist heaven and utopia is a liberal city. From Hollywood in Los Angeles to Manhatten in New York City.

Republicans and conservatives are insufferable and that's why no one wants to even visit what they have in their shitty rural areas. If they still want to farm and clean up after cow manures, they're free to.
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John West

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25 Aug 2016 18:40Link
Seems like everybody here is at least somewhat confused about the actual source of many things going wrong in our western societies and they will likely forever remain confused. I can explain all that which you are trying to grasp with one word. . .

but if I were to say that word my post will be deleted anyway (so there is no point in mentioning it), which is completely understandable due to laws all throughout Europe to protect a particular banking dynasty from 'hate speech' since the second world war, so whatever.. carry on then.

To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. I have nothing more to say on this thread.
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SeizeForce

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25 Aug 2016 18:48Link
John West my dear, are you talking about the JEWS?
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John West

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25 Aug 2016 19:26Link
I applaud your courage good Sir but perhaps you may understand that I will say absolutely nothing more on the subject. I withdraw completely from this thread (so that my account is, hopefully, not removed) as I have said too much already. Flak vest ready, I now offer myself onto the altar as a punching bag to those who continue this convo.
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Johanas Bilderberg

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26 Aug 2016 01:40Link
Blaming the voter for the actions of the Federal government over the past 70 years is like blaming the crime victim. We have been systematically robbed of our treasure by corrupt and inefficient government at all levels.

Parties are irrelevant. Both are corrupt and making themselves rich at our expense. Most of the issues you hold so dear are just political theater for the respective voter base. The real power isn't in Washington. It is inside corporations and the self appointed elite who really run the country.
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SeizeForce

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26 Aug 2016 05:18Link
Johanas, but only one party is blatantly trying to lower taxes for the elite and telling people we need to hold what the rich says on any matter.

Republicans have been for corporate elites, allowing loopholes, working with foreign entities and businesses in China, who wishes to undermine us. Yet, it is still the Republicans who hold Donald Trump, a billionaire with many business ties in China, as someone who is better than other people. You can see this cult of personality.

Democrats have been for taxing the rich, taxing the elites.
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SeizeForce

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26 Aug 2016 07:19Link
Although Trump's tax plans def save me thousands of dollars a year, so there's that.....one wonders whether this positive outweighs the negatives but as everyone says money talks. $.$
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The_Wicked_Lady

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26 Aug 2016 16:44Link
SeizeForce,

I am going to write my opinion based on what I see, but please note that this is going to be from a religious perspective and what I know from reading the Bible. I know some of you may not believe in God, and I respect that, and it is not my intention to shove religion down anyone's throat. I confess though, I do pray for everyone to know God's love.

The United States of America is "one nation under God". Our country has grown so far away from God, it isn't even funny. The good Lord has blessed America in many ways.......wealth, prosperity, abundance of food and water. We have always had a hedge of protection around us. Now, we are living our lives, away from God, replacing Him with money as our idol. God punishes His people, a wake up call, per se, for them to refocus on Him and not of things of the world. Now this doesn't mean you can't have nice things or know the importance of money, i
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SeizeForce

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27 Aug 2016 05:44Link
I'd rather not read the whole thing as it sounds like you wish for the US to have some kind of theocratic government. And it's good the US is moving away from religion. Separation of church and state, don't know if you've heard of it.

And can't really call a man like Donald Trump who donated to Planned Parenthood a good christian man.

And you can't also call Donald Trump a good candidate when Arizona and Georgia are battleground states this election. That's pretty SAD! LOW ENERGY.
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William Miller

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27 Aug 2016 11:15Link
Where does it mention the words separation of church and state in the 1st amendment? Its called" Freedom of Religion". The government can't establish an official religion or interfere with people's right to freely exercise their religion. It does mean that people of faith can freely participate in government without any interference from the state. Also it means that people have the right to decide not to follow the Christian faith. The Bible talks about that as well. The only religion that has elements that desire a theocratic government is Islam. Iran would be a prime example of that. Saudi Arabia as well.
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Eugene Mac

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27 Aug 2016 16:36Link
Thank you William.
The phase 'separation of church and state' is from a letter by Thomas Jefferson, not even a government document. I get so tired of people quoting it like it is more than that.

Of course I am just a extensive reader of history and picky that way :)
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SeizeForce

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28 Aug 2016 01:08Link
William, as courts have said, the principle of "separation of church and state" is IN the first amendment.