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Orbiter (White Giant)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 00:12Link
wendy, i don't think wb, eo (who's said very little here,) and company want to make a rule change to be able to over run players.
if you see that as a result, well, i'll concede that it could happen. I'll also not speak for EO, in regards to GR, as i barely even keep up with what goes on on that planet, and EO is a big boy that can speak for himself.same with WB
how ever, i do appropriate your opinion. as i agree with you on many points. there are large, unseen, multi-complex alliances. that a person who honestly just wants to enjoy fighting some one that looks like a challenge, ends up in a much larger fight than anticipated. for a new player that spends a little time researching how the war engine works, reads wild's how to thread, and wants to put it to use... then goes looking for a target, scouts them, out, and their fed, and carefully prepares to do war. then finds themselves at war with 90% of th
if you see that as a result, well, i'll concede that it could happen. I'll also not speak for EO, in regards to GR, as i barely even keep up with what goes on on that planet, and EO is a big boy that can speak for himself.same with WB
how ever, i do appropriate your opinion. as i agree with you on many points. there are large, unseen, multi-complex alliances. that a person who honestly just wants to enjoy fighting some one that looks like a challenge, ends up in a much larger fight than anticipated. for a new player that spends a little time researching how the war engine works, reads wild's how to thread, and wants to put it to use... then goes looking for a target, scouts them, out, and their fed, and carefully prepares to do war. then finds themselves at war with 90% of th
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Psycho_Honey
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 02:55Link
To be fair, Orbiter, I would bet my account that n00b stomping by an astronomical margin has driven more players 'away' that anything I can or ever will do in the game.
The difference is, I do what I do to capable players who are intelligent enough to know how to avoid it. It is a matter of personal choice and pride. I don't randomly select players or any group of players to attack in hopes of driving anyone 'away'. Your rebuttal is full of invalid assumptions that take what is being displayed out of context. You repeat the nonsense of players being chased 'away' by me, but can you honestly say a sizable amount of players were driven away? Not really. And if any number was in fact driven away, the choice was simple, remove yourself from a certain aggressive fed or fight. I can't force them to leave a federation, so I certainly cannot drive anyone from the game. To repeat what you have heard as fact is irresponsible
The difference is, I do what I do to capable players who are intelligent enough to know how to avoid it. It is a matter of personal choice and pride. I don't randomly select players or any group of players to attack in hopes of driving anyone 'away'. Your rebuttal is full of invalid assumptions that take what is being displayed out of context. You repeat the nonsense of players being chased 'away' by me, but can you honestly say a sizable amount of players were driven away? Not really. And if any number was in fact driven away, the choice was simple, remove yourself from a certain aggressive fed or fight. I can't force them to leave a federation, so I certainly cannot drive anyone from the game. To repeat what you have heard as fact is irresponsible
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EO (Little Upsilon)
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28 Jul 2010 02:56Link
I've tried to avoid this conversation because I think its easy to make opinions based on what side of the fence you're looking from.
Wendy,
My GR wars were the product of you. I had 3 countries (2 slaves) for about a month and was sitting around with no war protection. I had been slowly selling off because GR is one of 4 worlds I play on, and normally the least fun.
When you pissed me off enough that I felt like killing someone, I did just that. I purchased my old countries back and killed people who were associated with you. They were out of war protection - and they were friends/allies/whatever you want to call - with a player who was declaring war on every weakly defended country on GR. They paid the price.
After that war, I sold my countries off again, but kept the same 2 slaves. John was brave enough to declare on me, and got pretty lucky that there was holes in my nuke defense. He didn't fire O
Wendy,
My GR wars were the product of you. I had 3 countries (2 slaves) for about a month and was sitting around with no war protection. I had been slowly selling off because GR is one of 4 worlds I play on, and normally the least fun.
When you pissed me off enough that I felt like killing someone, I did just that. I purchased my old countries back and killed people who were associated with you. They were out of war protection - and they were friends/allies/whatever you want to call - with a player who was declaring war on every weakly defended country on GR. They paid the price.
After that war, I sold my countries off again, but kept the same 2 slaves. John was brave enough to declare on me, and got pretty lucky that there was holes in my nuke defense. He didn't fire O
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Psycho_Honey
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 03:01Link
Don't lie EO, you did what you did because I wouldn't beg you not to. What the F**K do I look like? I bow to know one, certainly not some imitation internet deity. You make me sick to the nth degree, and the future will be full of LuLz for you and your mates. I will hold them to the same standard you held mine. Let's see who yells loudest when all is said and done. No rule change, twisted story, 'Eo is away from the game with Mental problems" or any other excuse will change or solve that. It is what it is. I'm currently consolidating. But I'll be swinging all your way soon enough.
Cheers to change.
Cheers to change.
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Psycho_Honey
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 03:06Link
Federations are in the game, because they are useful, so is WP, the argument is null and void.
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EO (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 03:09Link
Lol wendy. Read the arguments. Players have no complaints to the format of federations. Since you've been playing the list goes on and on of players who have complained bitterly about your abuse of war protection. There are numerous threads about war protection. That is the discussion: war protection.
We'll see whos laughing when the rules change
If players don't want to get attacked, then don't provoke other players, and don't sit around without friends. As I've said, we've had ONE offensive campaign in 8 months. We're hardly killing everyone. Play nice and you'll be fine.
We'll see whos laughing when the rules change
If players don't want to get attacked, then don't provoke other players, and don't sit around without friends. As I've said, we've had ONE offensive campaign in 8 months. We're hardly killing everyone. Play nice and you'll be fine.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 03:30Link
I welcome the rule changes. I have said that previously, I didn't just switch up my words for today's discussion.
Yes I'll be laughing if the rules change. Because I am going to adjust, and apply it 10 times as much as I do now. If you cry now....
I am not complaining about federations.
I am not spamming for every aspect of the game that isn't desirable in my eyes to be changed.
I am not 'abusing' a feature in any way. What you are talking about has been done in the past by the same players making the argument.
That is the difference in me and all you TiTs that you don't get. You do what you do, and you are 'cool'. When you don't get your way you cry about it like 2 year olds. But when something bothers me I just deal with it. I am not asking w3c to give me some advantage that would make it more attractive for me to challenge a larger or more skilled opponent. I just t
Yes I'll be laughing if the rules change. Because I am going to adjust, and apply it 10 times as much as I do now. If you cry now....
I am not complaining about federations.
I am not spamming for every aspect of the game that isn't desirable in my eyes to be changed.
I am not 'abusing' a feature in any way. What you are talking about has been done in the past by the same players making the argument.
That is the difference in me and all you TiTs that you don't get. You do what you do, and you are 'cool'. When you don't get your way you cry about it like 2 year olds. But when something bothers me I just deal with it. I am not asking w3c to give me some advantage that would make it more attractive for me to challenge a larger or more skilled opponent. I just t
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whiteboy (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 03:33Link
Wendy the lies are getting ridiculous:
"The difference is, I do what I do to capable players who are intelligent enough to know how to avoid it. It is a matter of personal choice and pride."
Don't bullsh*t everyone, you pick the weakest members of feds or the weakest countries to attack. You know that is true and so does everyone else...why else would I have seen exactly 1 nuke from you in all of your issues with me? Don't pretend that you are doing anything other than asset raiding weak/inactive players or countries using 'justice' as an excuse and hoping no one notices.
Keep up the threats Wendy, the difference between what EO did and what you do is that you can choose any one of us to attack...you talk sh*t and cause problems and then hide in WP, so your fed and friends got attacked. EO and I have been out of WP on every world for over a year now...funny that for some reason we get the least
"The difference is, I do what I do to capable players who are intelligent enough to know how to avoid it. It is a matter of personal choice and pride."
Don't bullsh*t everyone, you pick the weakest members of feds or the weakest countries to attack. You know that is true and so does everyone else...why else would I have seen exactly 1 nuke from you in all of your issues with me? Don't pretend that you are doing anything other than asset raiding weak/inactive players or countries using 'justice' as an excuse and hoping no one notices.
Keep up the threats Wendy, the difference between what EO did and what you do is that you can choose any one of us to attack...you talk sh*t and cause problems and then hide in WP, so your fed and friends got attacked. EO and I have been out of WP on every world for over a year now...funny that for some reason we get the least
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Psycho_Honey (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 04:00Link
Ok... How have we gone full circle here now too?
More CHEEZE!!!
More CHEEZE!!!
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Laguna
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 18:09Link
When I read threads such as this one, I cannot help but hear don't bring around a cloud to rain on my parade...
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Doublestar (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 19:14Link
Did I hear cheese? Usually means "someone" just got owned and has no other response...err, but what do I know? :P
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Psycho_Honey (Golden Rainbow)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 20:08Link
Don't you have some fantasy about dubletarian uptopian news fLASHES , OR SPAM OF NOTHING MEANINGFUL TO TEND TO.
How is SCWN 1257.12 dot PHAIL coming along?
Reporting live from nowhere inside my empty head... this is Anderson p00per for 360.
How is SCWN 1257.12 dot PHAIL coming along?
Reporting live from nowhere inside my empty head... this is Anderson p00per for 360.
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Jojo T. Hun (Fearless Blue)
All worlds
28 Jul 2010 20:41Link
This was a fairly high signal to noise ratio conversation until recently. People who are trying to galvanize public opinion to help improve the game: don't get caught up in the slog of guerrilla debating tactics! No one cares who lied to who, how many countries you had when so and so nuked so and so, and etc. You guys are standing von Clausewitz on his head by making debating a continuation of war by other means.
Wendy has had some good points amidst the chatter, and some of us would like to encourage more, not less, of those insights.
Wendy has had some good points amidst the chatter, and some of us would like to encourage more, not less, of those insights.
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Border C (Little Upsilon)
All worlds
29 Jul 2010 00:25Link
Too much reading now to keep up.