What a mess

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Regarding your country, i would expect much higher profit, from having such a big country and so many private corporations. Your tax is 0, mb this is why your profit is so low. Also you have high salaries, which causes extra expenses.

Lord Mndz,

That's why I said at the bottom of my post...

"So I'm hardly optimized for profitability"

Meaning I am still making money. Even though I had a lot of settings set up, in a way that costs a lot more money than necessary. High Wages, Rock Bottom Taxes, Extreme Healthcare, a Defense Force in a secure mode country, and it's still profitable.

That's why I was asking, where is everyone spending their money? I'm spending more than I need to, on everything, and my country is still profitable. Where is all their money going?

Winderian,

I had a look at your main country, and I think I know why you are having money problems. You're indexes are off the charts.

270 Education, 220 Healthcare, 230 Transportation, 85% of LLW salary for Social Security.

I don't think the Education Index even increases graduate numbers, above 250.

The Transportation Index, only improves Welfare Index, and only upto 140 Transport Index.

Social Security, only improves Welfare Index, and only upto 80% of Low Level Workers Salaries.

Healthcare, is Simcountry's bottomless money pit, along with defense, there is basically no limit to how much someone can spend on it.

Anyone would be going broke, trying to maintain indexes that high.

This is the profitability situation in FB right now.



As you can see majority of presidents are really struggling. I cannot imagine what these 400 players can do with profit of 5B per game month. Also most of them having newbie boosters, so without that situation would be even worse.

Lord Mndz,

Where does that chart come from? I've never seen a page with that information in Simcountry?

I have access to the most secret information in SC, it is called SC Statistics and can be found on your homepage.

Statistics/downloads

I lost hundreds of oil corporations in my CEO and countries. I am rebuilding stronger, better, faster. Still turning a good profit on FB, better on LU.

If i didn't buy ammo I would have a better profit.

Markets always went up and down.
there are never any complaints when they turn out more profits.
lots of complaints when they go down.

except for one issue, there is nothing changed in the game to cause a decline and by the way, we see total assets in the entire game going up.

One issue is the natural resources.
the shortages of natural resources due to a low production capacity and the interventions to partially reduce shortages, does have an effect on the use of products.

it is not very serious but the market does not need much to go one way or another.

We are considering to allow small enterprises to build natural resource corporations.
small ones will be enterprises with less than 100 corporations.

This could be an opportunity for small CEOs to increase their profits and balance the natural resources market.
It will make the Enterprises game more attractive.

We did not decide yet

Andy,

I'd start with increasing natural resource discovery, massively. There just aren't enough resources in Premium Player controlled countries, to come close to meeting demand. More discovery will allow players to open more mining corporations, and give a greater incentive to expansion.

Thanks Daniel. I was doing okay right up until millions of my population were killed off and all my mining companies closed. I haven't built infrastructure since the culling started. Hence the indexes keep climbing.

Even if I close all the excess hospitals, all that will happen is the population will resume dying off. At the moment its stableish but I'm losing money.

I can't reallocate the unemployed fast enough as it is. Laying off all the extra folks from closed schools and hospitals will just make it worse although I will save 20% on wages.

As there is no profitable market area to build new companies in, it makes it even harder to give them valid jobs. And so the circle continues.

I had been procrastinating thinking the situation would improve as the newer mines came online and got more profitable. Sadly the rest of the market collapsed lowering the remaining companies profits.

I've started a

I agree regarding small corporations. Also they will need more support when they become bigger ones and mining corporations will close. On the other hand developing CEO is nearly impossible right now if you don't have cash from aside, so 100 might not be enough.

CEO game needs to be improved, and this is not only for small CEOs.

Winderian,

When population declines, it's important to close some schools/hospital/infrastructure to match the smaller population. Otherwise the smaller workforce, won't be able to sustain the cost of the public services.

There are corporations still producing profit, although not as consistently as in the past. It's more important than ever, to have a diverse economy, with a wide range of products.

At any given time, some of the products will lose money, but as long as they are profitable over the longer term, they are still making you money.

I think the whole natural resources concept needs to be rethought and clearly rebooted. It should go back to how it was originally.

@Daniel, Thanks for kicking me into action. Of course closing the hospitals as expected has seen a whole bunch of folks dying off. The death rate is soaring. I had thought maybe the higher population would pay for itself. I guess not.

I brought the indexes down to around 200 where they were over and cut social security to 80% again. (that was another experiment to see if I could reduce the death rate). It seems the books are starting to balance out.

How much I lose and how many companies I have to go close as a result remains to be seen. Hopefully it will balance out and leave a profit situation when the population stabilizes.

Winderian,

I'm glad to hear you are turning things around. Let me know how things go

High healthcare indexes, can increase population. However, it's rarely profitable. Because, many of the additional people, you get from better healthcare, are elderly retirees. Only some of the additional people are working age, and there aren't usually enough of them, to offset, the healthcare, and social security costs. Especially when your healthcare index is very high.

Social Security has no impact on the death rate.

Better healthcare reduces death rates in all age groups.

it also contributes to a higher welfare index which is essential for higher production levels and profitability.

LordMindz is too smart.....like seriously, intelligent

Very large CEOs are very profitable.
They are also very profitable for the countries where they reside.

new enterprises and current small ones, could build many natural resources corporations and when reaching 100 corporations, could continue building other corporations.

I would love to see an enterprise with 100 natural resources corporations.

Profitability can go very high.
we will try this when the feature is released.

Andy, my largest ceo in the game is constantly loosing money because of enterprise tax so this statement is not correct.

which one is it?
I would like to look into it.

Andy,

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On WG there are 20 Ents wit a Nominal Value over 100$.
Of them 6 are in debt.
Looking at their cash charts 2 are breaking even, 3 are going up.
15 of the 20 had negative cash flow in the last 18 game months.

Look at your own Ents on WG, they're loosing money every month.

Bilderberg Group on LU has 1481 corporations, has a production of 4.7T a month, and only has a profit of 625B.

Thats only 13 percent return. Smaller CEOs would have a hard time breaking even.

I closed two of my CEOs on LU because of low profits. it just Was not worth the gold coins for me to have them. I now only have two CEOs that just produce DWM and store weapons. No other use for them to me.

Both of my enterprises on KB are bleeding money every month. They used to run profits in the past.

Who knows...