W3C - Quality of raw materials

Ok, even though I am just a rookie in this game, even I know this is a really stupid and retarded idea. Why on Earth would you like to change the current system? The only effect it will have is that it will put the economies of the players into deep and big trouble.

@dominik,
that's probablythe idea, so that the only way to get out is thru gc

if there is not limit to any variable, then should be okay, but gm seems to be picking and choosing whichever variable is in the direction you said

This is GM's fault and they have explanation and resolving the problems to do. They have been quiet yet monitoring the forums and not responding. So, GM's is not up to par with their terms.

Well you know sometimes when the host wants to imply that the time is late and send you home but he's too polite to say it, he starts to yawn and mention the things he has to do tomorrow. It seems the GM has decided to f&#k up his own game and send us home. For the meantime the new Simcountry Punchline is "LAZYNESS PAYS OFF". Anyone who dedicated countless hours setting up contracts and common markets can go and *you know what* themselves. We just don't care. We don't even care to answer you. You're nothing to us.

I guess we're f**ked then. Lol, anyway, I never liked the Common Market. So, no problem there with me.

There was a fairly large drop in market prices from Dec 3442 to Jan 3443.

Selling products at the lower price (made with supplies paid for at the previous higher price) plus losses in company tax, accounts for the 4B that disappeared from one of my country's monthly profit recently.

I use no ASQ. I've been loosing total value for the last game year and profit has dropped by a third. I'm bleeding cash like crazy also.

I wish I never touched the CM, the score of it is still computing and I have nothing contracted. This is bulls**t

Im seriously thinking deleting this old Country and make another one on another World.

if the only the debit and credit system is transparent so we players know where our cash are going, would not be so much questions?

now i have no idea, just have to trust gm that nothing ever gets lost in sc. so hopefully when gm takes (debit) my cash, i got (credit) something else in return.

When someone discovers something radical that works around this mess created by the GM or develops a new plan like the old ASQ please DO NOT post it in this open forum to tip the GM off so they know to change it. If you are willing to share it we can develop some other means to communicate it.

Remember the game where's Waldo? It looks like the newest version is where's the GM?

The global economy is in turmoil caused by the GM and where is the GM? Certainly hasn't appeared in the forum all week. Hasn't given any explanation about why he did it or answered even the first question about it. GM said he was going to make the change in a week or two but does it in less than 4 days so no one would have time to adjust.

GM do you think if you stay away long enough we will just forget about the trillions in lost profits and total assets? I heard from a player last night who is just giving up his enterprise because he doesn't see how he can make it work and doesn't want to waste gold coins to keep it. Others are closing corporations every day. There are a lot of dissatisfied customers that you created.

Mr GM you may have gone too far this time. And hiding from us is not helping you any. And every day you

Perhaps the most incredible aspect of this situation is exactly what Jack mentions above: The complete absence of any formal position of W3C. It's like the GM has vanished into thin air, completely dissolved. Sometimes I feel as we are in the middle of some prank, some practical joke from the GM and Andy will soon miraculously return and say "Gotcha!!!".

Ah,fellas this sort of thing happens all the time once games been around as long as SC,
a blind man could see the writing on the wall haha one of my RP games i often enjoyed
recently shut down cuz the "GM" just said fu im out?

Yeah just like that he just split leaving thousands of pissed members,
he did for a reason tho he found a wife & well that's it games dead goodnite.

@william,

let's hope that sc gm will hand over to me rather than shut it down

i'll keep everyone happy

I vote yes for XON taking control of SC. I get to be conceptual designer.
And if we need to vote on it...

IN MY FIRST TERM AS GM I PROMISE TO FIX ALL THE ISSUES THE PREVIOUS GAME MASTER DIDNT.

-I promise to drop corp levels to 100K to allow more corps to be made.
-Fix Navy quality issues.
-Allow more options for common markets.
-Increased benefits for war levels.
-I will allow a bigger CM/Federations member limits.
-I will give players better weapons stats so that large amounts of weapons are no longer needed in battles.

-Most of all i promise to be in chat daily to help players with problems, and i will be a constant interactive member of the forums...

VOTE SUPERSOLDIERRCP FOR CONCEPTUAL DESIGNER!!!
*plays awesome music*

You certainly have my vote for GM Super. Problem is, I think SC is toast. Too bad I found it too late... It must 've been a great game 5-6 years ago.

I remember starting 4year ago.

There was no war levels and free-players got 30 days to play before they had to pay.

Everyone that was here wanted to be, and with no war levels everyone was fair game. Players within there first day desperately seeked a federation which made it very competitive, and there was plenty of vets to teach...

cant say the same now

SuperSoldierRCP,definitely has my vote & offer of other support if need be.

But to be fair we can't really be too upset with the GM,sometimes guys just burn out
or like i mentioned get married wit kids and say to hell with us game nerds etc,

So if someone here wants to step up and take control of those duties cool
i am sure people who are new like me or vets like super,love the concept of this game
but also understand it can use a few tweaks here or there, or revert back to what super
claims we're the golden era of the game so somebody needs to step up or it's lights out.

I think it would be a rather time consuming task running this game and dealing with everyone's problems and requests. The GM might be on holiday, who knows. The markets seem to be functioning ok, profits are climbing again after the recent price drop. Maybe more attention should be paid to running an efficient country and enterprise. The rules change, change with them... there is still plenty of ways to make a profit...

Claude, you are right running a business like W3C would be time consuming but after all it is their business. And there is more than one GM so surely someone is available to give us some explanation and answers.

And you are right we do have to keep trying till we finally succeed, get fed up and quit or the GM manages to destroy us.

Changes always happen but do they have to make a constant stream of changes that cut our profits? This was not just some random change that happened. It was a designed change by the GM. I don't know about you but I lost a lot of profits and asset values because of this last change and it is going to be difficult if not impossible to just get back to where I was. And if there is a good reason to have made this change I just want the GM to tell me what it was. Since the GM has disappeared can you tell me a good reason for the GM to have made this change?

It makes the supplying of companies a more flexible, dynamic and demanding engagement.

ASQ is hardly rocket science, it is well documented on the forums. it is a static system.

This change shakes the game up, it gives us a new challenge.
it tests our abilities to creatively respond.

in short, it makes us think...

If the GM would honestly take the time of listen this could be a GREAT game. Its honestly as if they don't care what we have to say anymore. I personally have suggested a lot of ideas in which dozens of players have agreed.

-Giving relief aid to another nation should positively effect a players score.
-All C3 weapons and ammo should come off the world market. This would increase demand and allow us to dramatically increase production to massive levels allowing military's to costs to be cut in the process.
-Fix common markets to allow you to choose to buy good or all corps and set the Q you want to by.
-Add some more new types of corps. There's Nuke power/Electrical power. Why not add land transportation?

Also speaking from ACTUAL military experience. The war game of SC is terrible in terms of weapons and ammo. I don't understand how it takes 5 Anti air batteries and 25 missiles to blow up 1 Helicopter...
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great ideas super

there are lots of players' ideas to be implimented to make this game better, but have you see this game getting better since you were here 4 years ago?

lots of things in this game are out of proportions, that's why i have such stressful times trying to understand this game

it's an awesome game, and can be much more AWESOMER

i'm not too sure how much more dynamic this game will be by adding cost to the equation, when quality is already making this game such a whacky concept already.

it's like a snake chewing its own tail. soon it will just kill itself.

I think in general, there is way too much of a power slant in favor of defensive helicopters. I know they are useful in reality, but they are not the most critical part of a military.