W3C - Quality of raw materials

I have no idea, lol, cant help there.

Weapons are now scarce...

XON - the unit of measurement does not matter in ASQ. You are over thinking it. Use the simple plan I outlined and it will work.

ALL - Please don't forget that the GM used this thread to announce that soon we will have to buy all high quality raw materials. This additional cost will decrease your profits. Do you really need to make less profits? The GM is continuing to reduce the profits of C3 wars. Unless your plan is to fund your countries through your credit card I would suggest you take notice of this. Along with decreasing our profits this takes away Average Supply Quality as a tool everyone including free players could use to increase corporate profits. Whether you used or not doesn't matter why should the GM take it away from us.

It has been 2 days since the GM announced this. Not another word since then. Why has he not answered Aries' questions from 2 days ago and given us the magic high quality number he intends for u

I am a creature of habit,so i don't really like random & disturbing changes.


Hopes for the best for simcountry,but i am preparing for the worst.

@jack,
it's not overthinking, it's common sense that's what some of us earth humans do.

trying to pretend is difficult because if you're in america, you cannot use your english pounds, jap yen, and so on. you have to use usd?

it is even worst here, because computer systems do not mix well with tons of stone?

thank you though

yes, this new idea will increase cost by increasing quality. if there is no limit to quality, then it would be okay too so long as these high quality products are being forced to buyers to take them. if no players buy high q, then we all will have lots of unsold products.

Xon,

the SC markets are not 'free markets' so to say,

The quality of a product gets absorbed by the market.

what this means is that when you sell 1000 ton of stone @ Q100, 1000 ton becomes available on the market. I could buy that 1000 ton @ Q330 and pay 3.3 x the market price.

likewise when i sell that 1000 ton which is Q330, the market only registers that 1000 ton has come on the market, not the quality of the stone. anyone can buy that 1000 ton of stone at any Q level they so desire.

At least that is how i understand it.

Claude, I believe you are correct. That has been my observation.

Sorry if I'm joining late in this discussion, but had to do some things for Uni.

So here are my thoughts, didnt read all the thread so my bad if someone mentioned this allready:
Is it just me or does the economy of this game is step by step more limited?
I mean if you cant do free pricing, all products have an effect compared to their Price, why even bother with different products. When this new Quality concept will be implemented you as well could join all products of one type into one single product.
For example: If you need Chemicals and Building Materials and Quality per price is the same why not just do a 'industry' product? But hey, why should anyone then buy the Corp-Conversions for GC?

Sometimes I think I'm getting a 'bitter vet' but I start getting an 'earlier times everything was better' attitude. At least it was far more economically interesting, luckily I care for my Little Drones a

This change appears to have taken effect. I guess I will have to cancel several thousand contracts, set supply quality to a fixed number, and re-evaluate the usefulness of hundreds of corps.

i noticed it also. this is one of those things, i really wish the GM would talk about, rather than just say what they are basically going to do, and leave it at that.

it doesn't really seem, so far that it is the total destruction of ASQ, actually. i'll adjust some settings, and expect to be near my old profits.

crosses fingers

this new invention will actually get you to high Q faster, but the trap is that there is max Q you cannot exceed.

if there is no max Q, it maybe okay too so long as everyone (presidents, ceo, c3) are all producing high Q products with this new invention, and that we continue to be able to sell high Q products by force-sales.

if max Q contiues to be a limit, and everyone wants to buy low quality/price, but this new proposal will create high q/price, then we players will get crash. as players, we get squeeze from the borders that we have to play within, and these borders just get accelerated to be much closer together. eventually, the only way to survive and keep our game assets is to buy gc. this is an awesome strategy for the gm/owner, but very bad for the players

if you look closely at the various costs, and what has actually changed. ASQ is still very viable, just the output q has dropped. For quiet some time now, W3C has been lowering the max Q, while raising the requirements to top out. all that is really needed here, is probably 20ish more points to the average supply. unless their is a part 2 to this, this doesn't seem so bad. maybe a blessing in disguise?

If it is as the original post said, does ASQ still exist? I mean, right now if you have a mix of low quality high per-unit costs items and high quality low per-unit costs, sure, you can add some more high quality stuff and it will raise the output quality again. However, is it any different than just ordering all supplies at a medium quality, like 200?

with the asq equation that the numerator increases without limit, while the denometer has a limit or keeps going lower is not a blessing for players

I agree, it looks like you are right that implementation of the change has already begun. Although the GM stated "The computation of the quality of the product a corporation produces will change a bit in one or two weeks."

Unfortunately since we don't know to what percentage the change has been implemented it is impossible to know how to adjust on our end. That is information we need. And knowing exactly when the change was going to happen would have given us time to make changes. Instead we are told a vague 1 or 2 weeks and then they change it in 4 days. Funny how they can make this change in 4 days but a long list of long promised changes are still just that - a long list of long promised changes. Plus some communications from the GM would have been great and expected as customers of their business. Apparently the GM thinks this is the only game in town or that we are so loyal we would not leave. However the GM would be very wrong o

What about doing this but having something different to benefit those who put time in?

Just throwing that out there, it doesn't reflect the opinions of me, FOX, or BLO

Did anybody else notice most overall corp market values plummet?

does the new supply quality equation mean that as the market price of a product goes higher, the proportion that the product in question contributes to the total product quality increases?

that was badly worded,

i'll try again

if the market price of a particular supply product increases, does the proportion that the supply product contributes to the overall quality of the product being produced increase?

any better?

I saw my 11T corp fall to 1T

So far in one game month my enterprise lost 8 Trillion in total assets and billions in profits. Similar losses in total assets and profits in my countries. And we don't know how much further it will fall.

And it obviously doesn't just affect someone using ASQ. A friend with an enterprise that uses almost no ASQ lost billions in profits at the same time.

GM let's hear from you and soon. The unanswered questions for you are piling up.

This is quite unheard off. Looks like economy is crashing, lol.

so far, they haven't actually done anything unusual, actually. believe it! or not,

shrug

Hmm,i log in to find at least $5T just gone out the damn door!

what's even more messed up is it's the second time in a row,
yes i am buying hq stuff oh wait that's right i am still waiting for my stuff to arrive
and what has arrived is not even close to the HQ' i ordered.

some of my orders tend to change or revert back to 120Q yet i still lose trillions
and i've recieved not 1 award when i am premium and have earned one.

I worked hard to get that money only too just watch it vanish without a trace.

i've been told that nothing ever get lost in sc, so i never bother to check in details.

it seems the higher you gone, the faster you're falling now?