jackw, what does speculate on morality?
it is actually the sphere of religion to say what is, and isn't moral, it largely based on your religion. true Christianity, is based on allowing other their view, but maintaining what god allows.
Christians face a double standard, no one can be perfect, but the expectancy of that is what brings you to salvation. no one can be perfect, its only the grace of god, that he doesn't just kill us. because he loves those that would choose him, in-spite of the difficulties, for this reason, their will always be difficulties. so the endevour to convert, points at the flaws that we all possess, to create mercy, when your on the short side, it seems hypocritical, its not until you except it, and respect Gods morality, that it makes sence, even thru your own flaws...
it is true, the "church" hasn't always been so understanding, but being a christian, isn't what people say,
Religion and morality are like oil and water.... All you need to do is look through history or at the bitter preacher who thinks everyone who doesn't share his faith is immoral and by extension sub human.... It Is bigotry To think that morality comes from your faith and you do others and yourself a disservice.... Furthermore it is interesting to note that no one in America at least follows the morality of the bible and if they did they would certainly go to jail..... Philosophy is the study that deals with morality not religion which is too authoritarian and not science which has nothing to do with morality at all as per its methodology
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good grief Hamas is more like Hummas
Well the some extreme muslims link morality to their religion... It is ok to kill people in the name of Allah. And the Quran does state that people that don't believe in their god is something less to human... In Saudi Arabia there is a Highway to Mecca (Muslim-Only City) that says "Muslims Only" (
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/pCCnggr5jh8/hqdefault.jpg), outright segregation is something well practiced, as they cannot let the pagan lesser human enter their Holy City. (Morality??) But they decry the treatment they receive in Europe or even in Israel.
We also had a holocaust survivor talk to us... It was as I expected it to be.
When did this shift over to religion, Gaza ground operation coming to an end (apparently), France has condemned Israel recently (doesn't come as a surprise from a country who is bound to become an Islamic Republic in 40 years
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Ok this is not ment to be an inteligent well thought out statement. I under stand why both sides are fighting. I want to follow up on Aussteign's statement and go one step past that and ask about the failure of multi-coutreism Europe is being over run by people that will not conform learn languages and soak off the goverment. I thank god every day nothing like that happens in America.
Altered: I hope you're being sarcastic.
Multiculturalism in Europe? Failed.
Turks that settle in Germany either assimilate, or have to go, there's a different story for every Euro country. I don't mind the muslims coming in for a better life, but I dislike them trying to impose their Islamic Law, like assaulting people in the street for not wearing the veil or for being Christian, or even spreading hate propaganda against certain groups for whatever irrational reason. Thank god Turks aren't at all like that though, they usually display their love for both Turkey and Germany. You can see that a lot in their neghbourhoods.
I agree with Maclean haha; Mexico and Central America are to the US what Turkey and well... All southeastern european countries are to Germany.
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I am just a bit sarcastic at times.
If America was never inhabited by people who soaked off the land didn't learn the local language or conform to the local culture then America would be a confederation of the Cherokee Iroquois and Navajo
America is a complex country, if it... wait... Isn't it a continent?
lol x2 Jack: agreed it is the world. and same on the Indians.
Aussteigen, America and Canada make the North American Continent, so not exactly. maybe 2/3 estimated.
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mean while back at the ranch
Is that where your killing the children VADER!?
Que sobre mehico ? Tonto drys..... Pobre mehico
ok, try this on for size: We can all agree that everyone needs to stop killing the children, as per the original title of the thread. any country that puts its children in harm;s way by their policies, should be nuked until they change their methods. If they refuse to change, eventually they will cease to exist. Only a better, more enlightened government with more civilized policies will arise in these countries, thus ensuring the future of any future children. How about it, "the sacrifice of the present to ensure the future" ? I know some of the philosophers and students of ethics will see what i am saying. discussion, please...
disclaimer: The author does not advocate the nuking of children, nor their infrastructure. The foregoing is for discussion puposes only. satire and hyperbole should not be taken as advocacy of any action, expressed or implied. Any resemblance to "destroying the village in order to save it" is....well, you kno
Aussi the Zionists created Multiculturalism to destroy the blood lines of all except themselves.
Maclean...I was gonna cus you but I don't think you believe that. Any country that defends its children against occupation, assassination, blockades and weapon tests and war games will always have the backing of the Good. Therefore will always exist.
Sniff...sniff....sniff....I smell a rat in the kitchen.....

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Forgiveness if you are not who I think you are
No, i was being ultra-sarcastic. altho it seems evil is winning in this world...
Of course it seems that way! 1 John 5:10
Remember the text always intended Good to win. I will look now.
I am going for...1 John 5:10 - Bible Gateway
1 John 5:10New International Version (NIV)
10 Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.
Serpent...what do you mean by this?
maclean....I have always known you are Good

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This War has just begun mclean. Good does not act in war until all avenues are closed.
Like Hamas and the Siege/blockade ect etc
Jews didn't Create multiculturalism
I don't understand the meaning of destroyed bloodlines.... If I married a beautiful Brazilian lass I feel my bloodline would improve (I'm so damn white)
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Maclean "The author does not advocate the nuking of children, nor their infrastructure". I not so sure Bombs always seam to find there way to Playgrounds.