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Topic Change: New Idea for C3 Warfare (White Giant)

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whiteboy (Little Upsilon)

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30 Jul 2010 08:10Link
John - I don't think you are understanding the meaning of the word 'swag', swag means assets. You took a 60 mil pop country to 13 mil, that means you burned 47 mil pop...equivalent of 235 GC...that's alot of assets burnt which is what BC was talking about.

Also, your argument earlier about the nukes being transferred in by a developed country along with the workers from a developed country, isn't that then state-sponsored terrorism? If Pakistan transferred nuclear weapons which Al Qaeada then used on the United States do you think that Pakistan wouldn't receive the retaliation? You can't argue that c3 warfare is just and similar to guerilla/terrorist warfare in real life and then also argue at the same time it is sponsored by a developed state...in that case the developed state should not have war protection as it is an active participant in warfare.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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30 Jul 2010 09:31Link
Maybe you purposely are ignoring the fact that there were more assets in that country than all of the countries EO took from John combined regardless of pop.

Maybe you need to rethink the equation and the meaning of swag.

Then again you know everything. This is why you were appointed minister of propaganda of The Mob.
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whiteboy (White Giant)

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30 Jul 2010 10:44Link
First...not true.

Second, all of those assets...PLUS...235 GC more of pop...is that more or less then what the total profit was...rhetorical questions obviously.

BC is 100% correct, nukes are a killer of 'swag'.
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BIGG E (Fearless Blue)

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30 Jul 2010 15:26Link
SOME WARS ARE NOT FOUGHT FOR SWAG.THEY ARE FOUGHT FOR PRINCIPLE AND MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS GAME ARE NOT LIKE REAL LIFE.BC DOES HAVE A GOOD IDEA ABOUT MAKING NUKES VULNERABLE TO OTHER TYPES OF DEFENSIVE WEAPONS AS THIS WOULD SEEM TO HELP DEFENSIVE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOW AT A DISADVANTAGE IN THE CURRENT WAR ENGINE.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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30 Jul 2010 18:41Link
I agree. Nukes are killer of assets (swags as some like to refer). In my war of retaliation against EO I believed I killed more than his assets but also killed his desire to destroy my empire. Prior to the massive nuking he suffered he thought he was untouchable with his multi trillion defense system.
I've played this game prior to the implimentation of WP and as far as I am concerned it was as good a game as it is now.
I've played and lost empires after empire and am still here to fight for my right to maintain one.
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whiteboy

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30 Jul 2010 18:43Link
Totally agree Biggie, John's comment led me to believe he didn't know what BC meant by swag, but of course there are other reasons to go into a war...and absolutely many things about this game are not in any way shape or form similar to real life, but you can't argue on one side that c3 warfare should be allowed because it is like guerilla/terrorist warfare in real life and then argue that it is actually a state sponsored attack in the other.

I do like BC's idea as well...Strat bombers, etc should have to deal with country defenses, like ints, helis, etc, etc.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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30 Jul 2010 20:31Link
Well one is free to make any argument they choose, regardless of your approval or not, WB.
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whiteboy (White Giant)

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30 Jul 2010 22:32Link
That is obviously true Wendy, I didn't tell John or Biggie or anyone other than you to shut up...it's called an argument, one person makes a point, if someone disagrees they respond as such...no one is limiting their speech or asking for their speech to be limited.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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31 Jul 2010 00:45Link
"and absolutely many things about this game are not in any way shape or form similar to real life, but you can't argue on one side that c3 warfare should be allowed" `~MinnieMouse

One can argue anything. Not be limited by statements such as this.^^


You would need some kind of authority to make anyone to shut up. You could tell yourself you matter too, but it would only be relevant in a minnie mind.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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31 Jul 2010 02:13Link
whiteboy,
You were right, I was unsure what BC meant and thought it was destroying something.

Of course here is the dictionary definition of swag:
swag1    /swæg/ Show Spelled [swag] Show IPA ,noun, verb, swagged, swag·ging.
–noun
1. a suspended wreath, garland, drapery, or the like, fastened up at or near each end and hanging down in the middle; festoon.
2. a wreath, spray, or cluster of foliage, flowers, or fruit.
3. a festoon, esp. one very heavy toward the center.
4. a swale.
5. a swaying or lurching movement

Nothing close to defining assets in general.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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31 Jul 2010 02:22Link
I did more research and found s.w.a.g listed in the Urban Dictionary of slang words. In that it seems to refer to almoat any collection of articles.
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whiteboy (Little Upsilon)

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31 Jul 2010 02:46Link
Lol...you're right John...I thought swag was actually a slang/made up term...didn't even know there was a dictionary definition of it and it is way off of what we're using it for in this context.

Good research though :)
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

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31 Jul 2010 03:35Link
Hmmm, here is a better question.

Which is better Swag or Respek?
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Border C (Little Upsilon)

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31 Jul 2010 04:48Link
Boobs. I can see them (Well.... maybe not as often as I'd like.. :( ) and some of them are even real.
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SuperSoldierRCP (Little Upsilon)

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31 Jul 2010 06:05Link
I think being a level in order to launch is important maybe level 4 by then a country is well established.

I have an Idea why not use the welfare index? stay that for a country to even dec war on another player the country must have X # of pop plus an welfare index of 100?