Enterprises (Kebir Blue)

I'm going to de-reg at least one CEO, maybe more than one.

Big question: My understanding is that when I do the corps in my countries and other player countries remain alive indefinitely as "gamemaster" corps. Can someone confirm this?

I too have "profitable" CEO's that are bleeding cash and I am putting an end to it, one way or another. I'm going to buy some corps from CEO to CEO but I'm trying to figure out if I should nationalize the rest that are in my countries or let them live on as gamemaster corps after I de-reg.

Happy to hear your opinions, Thanks.

Yes, well until they go bankrupt anyway. They also do not auto-upgrade any longer so steadily degrade to 100 which is probably the biggest issue. No-one having control has to be a worrying factor as well.

If you wanted too Kolenski, you could advertise which ents you are closing and I for one would be willing to buy a controlling share of any that arent complete rubbish.

ok heres another issue no one probably thought through or if you have and intend this to be the case its a raw deal to the players.

ok prescision bombers moved to space station only, ok well i dont like it as everyone whos posed about it thinks thts well u know.

but some of us prepared ourselves well for it and built a bunch of factories to produce our own, well now instead of the bar showing a huge demand for them since no one can order them it shows a surplus and prices are dropping causing all the factories that produce them to lose more money my question is i thought you said and ay logical thinking man would think this would make the price of prescision bombers go up henseforth the factories would make more money but price is down and factories allthough selling out by direct contracts are losing more money how can this be you should remove the supply and demand bar if items not on the world market and henseforth there can be no dema

Ramasas you can still buy bombers on FB, if you are there.

Ramasas, medical supplies are back in shoartage and if players subsidised their corps through the downturn, then it's C3 corps that would close.

Players will build other corps and the countries' savings will probably be spent on something else, such as as more assets bringing with them extra demand for maintenance products.

no ive got prescision bombers coming out my woohoo i have over 50 plants all contracting to myself thats not what im talking about. on the supply demand bar it shows a surplus of prescision bombers thus driving the price of them down, thus making all my company producing them profits go down. in actuality since a product is not available on this world how can it logicly show a surplus of them and therefore the price you can sell them for go down thats insanely wrong theres tons of people that want them they need to eliminate that bar saying theres a surplus.

and yeah i see the demand for medical supplies have gone back up, the only reason is weve probably closed 1,000 plants (ceo's) medical items have been in severe demand for over 2000 years theyve been deep red so most c3 companies that produce them are 1.8 trillion dollar companies it takes well over a month for a c3 to lose 2 to 3 trillion dollar companies.
in my earlier post i

I have been playing as one Country and one CEO on LU, I will be closing the Enterprise when it expires because the Enterprise part of the game is fundamentally broken. For instance saying that enterprises do make players profit because the nations where they are built become a lot richer is simply not good enough. Apple does not invest in the USA to make the US government rich, BP oil does not drill for oil to make the government more money. One simple way to change this would be to allow presidents to set the % of Corp revenue to be taxed just like they set the % of corp profits to be taxed. I for one would lower the taxes in my nation to allow CEO's to make more profit if it meant more private investment for my nation.

Also I for one an never going into the space aspect of the game, I play this game because its one of the most realistic economics/government simulation games I've ever found. Space shuttle trade has no part in that. I do not mean to abolish the space feature but rather it should be like real space travel, things that are beginning now like space tourism, improving productivity through use of satellites in communications technology, and at a big stretch the mining of raw materials that can't be found on a home planet. Shipping strategic bombers across the galaxy cos the people on one planet just forgot how to make them is just childish and is inappropriate for this fantastic game.

Sorry for double posting, one more thing, the auto transfer of money to failing corps without our permission and no way to turn it off is seriously not cool. The old system of corps going into debt and then failing was great at removing unprofitable corps and re-balancing supplies, the new system just sucks nations/enterprises dry of all their cash. And what was so wrong with the loans system that was in place before, why this war on the very interesting financial market feature of the game, corps enterprises and governments borrowing money is a good thing, its realistic and adds to the flavor of the game. Bring back loans! And then you can expand on the loans system, create a loans market where market forces set the interest rates, if there are too many borrowers interest rates go up till more people lend money and people decide its too expensive to borrow at that time, if there is a savings glut then interest rates fall till more people borrow to invest

CEOs
On the whole, my 1 CEO makes a profit and it's cash transfers are positive.

I don't see any reason why CEOs should be making lots of money and have positive cash transfers.


Supply/Demand
If you look at the market supply/demand before the month update then it may look as though it changes dramatically. Also, if players sell off masses of stock then this can cause an over-supply.

It is also the longer-term picture that is important and not the immediate one.

Medical Supplies
The adjustment in the use of medical supplies is a short-term affect only. This is not a short-term game and it is the long-term outlook that should be considered to be successful.

If you have a rough patch, you just need to know why and either adapt or ride it out.

If players are losing lots of money and having large negative cash transfers then there must be specific reasons for it and it's not due to the medical supplies situation.


The GM just pointed out how beneficial an enterprise was for a country but they can be very profitable independently.

Still David its much harder to make money as a CEO and that is reflected in the fact that there are many more people playing nations then there are as CEOs, as for why a enterprise should make money and have positive cash flows, its a private business the whole point of a private business is to make a cash profit and then reinvest that cash profit in expanding the business.

One area where David is absolutely right though is in the fact that we are supposed to adapt to the changes that are made. When the game changes we have to change with it and constantly adapt our strategy to the new reality. That is something that is very realistic, many companies that were extremely profitable turn into loss makers when the markets and technology change, just look at general motors in the US once one of the worlds most successful companies ended up going bankrupt and having to be saved by the government because they did not adapt to changing realities.