Econ Players (Little Upsilon)

Most war players can protect themselves, an econ player to have a 130fin index is tough and to have to save TRILLIONS per country and spend trillions to stay safe means that we have to find another steady ground. if half the game in WP its going to suck we are going to have much much more C3 warring and territory deputes WP should be temporary fix. Im only proposing ideas because the game was based on war then they made a flip and it wasn't though out enough. as Orbiter said it would cost 115B a month plus everything else i need even if i make 100B a month its going to take awhile and if i have a CEO or 2 it will make it more complex. We need and idea that would help Econ Players but at the same time not make it unfair whos to say a warlord switches to econ buy there decreased WP then flips back? their getting n easier ride. im trying to propose stuff to the admins beside WP tell me your thought... Each government has it own ability, new items, econ ge

A 130 FI is tough? It's a breeze, unless you're supporting a military. Hemlock on any world isn't below 153 FI. No military, no need in a secured country.

Now if I ever want to go past 160FI I'm going to need to have over 100B in costs a month.

Um i thought we have a econ game, it's called CEO.

With all due respect SS, you are new to this game and your lack of understanding shows. If I may just point out a couple of things:

If you have 2 countries, you can make one econ, with an FI of 150 - 160 (no military as WD points out), *(In fact, when you get established you can get an FI over 300). You then have a war country (slave) whose FI can drop to 110 or less and you have an empire average of 130. Remember: The level requirements are an average, you dont need 130 FI in all countries.

A good war slave or two will enable you run several good econ countries and be able to protect them on the whole. (No guarantees given :P ).

Making 100B a month is the minimum requirement for any non-war slave country, some make 500B+. CEOs do make things a bit more complicated, but can greatly increase your income and, ironically, can greatly assist your defense abilities. ;)

The iss

Hi everyone, im fairly new to this game. and i was reading this forum, and i was like, what? financial services fee? so i looked into my financial statement and i was like WTF!!!, half a Trillion $ in one month. and im over here trying to get to level 9 wondering where my $ going not making money anymore. and it looks like it just increasing more and more(fees) while im tring to lower my cash to meet the limit before fees by puting it into loans. the last month they took $944,522,960,000 from me. WTF thats shady!

continuing from my last entry. So i figured i that i should just go for the defensive level 9 instead of the peaceful lvl 9, but it seems like im ruining my slaves putting all that military into them. Maybe it cuz of the low pop. Any suggestions on what i should do cuz i dont know if im taking the right path. thanx
oh and to anyone that i have pissed off by taking over a corp, im truly sorry. After playing a bit i realized that it aint alright to take over someones corp. and if u want ur corps back, i will be more then happy to return them back.

Don Caballero
President of La Cartel de Michoacan
CEO of iNTeK Cartel Corp

opps im tripN. financial services fee is for the year not the month, but still thats a lot

i have a poll on the communications page... so you can voice your opinion

Da Don, you do realise that you can put your excess cash (over about 12T before the Feds want their cut) into your direct trading account, like a nice little tax haven.

Also, if your holding that much loot in your slaves, you want to be sure you're packing plenty of heat, so don't sack your hitmen. There's always another mob ready to take control of your turf ;)

Crafty

i got all my $ in my secure country. i only keep about 100B to 200B in my slaves. Thats why their rapping me on that financial services.

oh on putting my cash in my direct trading acc. if i do that, i'll drop lvls cuz im still playing peaceful index until i get my defense up to lvl up to lvl 9. and i got to keep all my Trillions in my secure country cuz i aint tryN to get robed.

One more thing, is it possible to keep playing this game without paying everytime ur acct expires, cuz what is it 4 or 6 gc for every day after ur acct expires, thats crazy. or do i got this wrong?

oh i voted on ur poll, SSrcp. i agree with u on that. 4sho

Its possible to only pay annual membership if you can earn enough coins to extend ur empires. Its best if boosters are bought to extend empires, from mains and ceo's only.

Don, I dont think its going to make any difference to your levels by keeping excess cash in your main. Move it to your DT account and save yourself the fees.
It costs 1 GC a day to keep an empire (per world in otherwords) and 1 GC per day per enterprise. This is seperate from paying real money to have an account ($12/3months) for which I think you still get coins thought they did change the rules on that so I'm not certain.

i'v gotten boosters, but never see my membership get extended. pay annual? how do u get that option cuz i dont see it or do you have to have a certain amount of gc for it to pop up?

well here is my acct status
You are a full member until June 17 2010.

(main entity)Your empire on LU (Mariposa, Yosemite National Park, La ...)
yours until Jun 17 2010 automatically extended with membership

Your enterprise on LU (iNTeK Cartel Corp)
yours until Jun 15 2010

sorry about being stupid on this, LOL, but they dont give us enough info on this.

thanx for the replys. i'll move it to dt acct and see what happens.

so i can only put 12T in dt acct without getting an additional fee? is that what u were sayN, so if i exceed 12T in my dt acct they will start taxing that? LOL

Direct Trade account is unlimited. No fees. Use the cash to buy GCs, or whatever.

Nice to hear about your decision on corps, which I know you snagged one of mine, but not a problem. I was a little impressed to see someone new slip off with a corp by taking a dominant share holding. Not something you see every day.

White Darkness
Yeah, my bad, i remember doing that to one of ur corps. Then i looked into ur Empire and i was like wow i better not mess with him, before he comes over and kicks my azz;) and thanx, its nice to hear that u where impressed with a noob, yeah i never did that hostile bid thing. i knew from the beginning that aint cool at all, and that if i was going to take over it will be by buying shares on the market, and i went crazy buying on the market then i started mainly looking for corps that were failing and badly mismanaged by inactive players, to save.

This issue isn't a priority, but it is an issue.

It makes no sense sense to offer a peaceful game mode, and expect and suggest the player to become an highly appealing target vulnerable to war.

My usual recommendation in face of failed mechanisms, which offer trouble or nothing downstream, is to have them removed. So, one possible solution here is to have one single Game level scheme - like we had before.

However, given there are players who wish to play a peaceful game mode, and the addition of game levels as a requirement to build corporations compels them to rise through the Game levels, among other factors, an effort has to be made to resolve this situation. Also, it comes as a necessity to the Game to find a balance between a peaceful and war mode, if long-term success wants to be attained.

I see one main problem with the current mode: it asks for a Peaceful player to have one or more country susceptible to war.

Don ~ I'm still a fledgling myself. No dangers here. Maybe in a few hundred trillion military assets. When I realized what had happened, since I see my shares way too often on my enterprises, I had a brief flash of anger, then I started laughing. It was a slick move. You probably noticed I sold out.

Definitely not a big deal. If I can't appreciate a good tactic, it's time to close up shop.

Laguna ~ In my case, I'd consider both of those viable options.

My own situation is simple. In two of my operations (KB and GR) I'm sitting at level 4 peaceful. With the corporation level requirements, this gives me the most flexibility while I get things prepped over time for moving ahead. In my primary theater of operation (LU) I've switched to the war ranks finally and have moved rapidly from level 4 peaceful to level 8 military.

I'll admit I personally think all new players shou

im still working on all these ideas n im come up with some good ones and laguna thanks for the ideas HUGE HELP. anyone have some mroe ideas and thanks to all for you inputs

YIPPIE!!! I made it to LVL 9! Yup, its best if ECON players switch to defensive mode to reach higher LVLs. My goal is to reach #1 for both CEO and Country, within 70 years(Game years) of playing. Hopefully I can do it.

What is the best way to educate the low lvl worker, cuz I have way to many(1.5M)? More universities, high schools, or elementary schools?

All the above. Uni's H.S and elem schools.