World War On White Giant (White Giant)

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And Iain has volunteered to become the first nuclear holocaust victim. Great thinking Iain.

For the record, you attacked an Econ player. I sent messages to the countries that attacked that I was an econ player, but you attacked, took a couple of countries and declared on a couple more.


Have a nice life.

IM please message me. You weren't a target - but you might have countries in feds of people being attacked?

I was not aware you were being attacked. This is a mistake.

Please message me and I will arrange for the return of your countries or compensation.

Right... I wasn't aware either.

Seriously?

Okay, here is my unsolicited observations and opinions.

Some people don't like the war game and some people do. Some people don't enjoy the game when they have to spend hours clicking buttons to defend their assets, other don't enjoy it unless they are.

All you're doing is forcing some people to play the part of the game that they don't like so that you can play the part of the game that you do like.

Why do you have to do this? Because you recruited 90% of the players that do enjoy the war game. If you want to fight so much, you shouldn't have brought all of the fighters onto your team. You've recruited the strongest war fed and now feel you need to challenge other non-warlike feds in order to have your funsies.

True, war is part of the game. But most people don't war for fun.

This post will probably come back to bite me in the ass later, but I'm plannin

Thank the Fn Lord.

Well said BC. I stated in another thread earlier, the problem is consolidation. Of course strong war players can band together and play a tough war game. But the cause stated is for a 'good war'. I think a 'good war' would and should consist of players that can win against the other on any given day. That said, it is time warlords began fighting warlords, not targeting weak links as a 'GROUP'.

You're not exactly innocent yourself, Wendy. For that fact, neither am I, but I plan on using what assets I have left to make the game fun.

Well said BC

If wgc kicked our butt... would it then have been 'fun'?

Ok,heres my 2 cents. First off, well said BC. Secondly, I think the "mob" is nothing more than a bunch of common thieves. You say this is about warring to have fun, you don't attack econ players, but so far I know for a fact you've attacked and stole assets from 2 econ players in this war. You've stated to a number of WGC members "don't take it personally" How are they to not take it any other way? Work for years building an empire just to have it stolen from them by a bunch of thugs. You state that your taking on the biggest Fed in the game when in reality, there are only 3 or 4 members that actually work on their war game. So since you have 6 members taking on 3 or 4, then its nothing but bullying and ripping off assets.
Serpent...you stated "If wgc kicked our butt... would it then have been 'fun'? I don't think WGC would have thought it was fun but more that you got what you deserved, since you s

We have all the war players BC? Really? There are 5 of us in the fed...is that all that's left? We're allowed to shoot at eachother and that's it?

WGC is an econ fed? Multiple top ranked war slaves, the biggest military on WG by multiple times...and it's not econ players we are attacking...who is an econ player? These are all players with HUGE army's and military assets. PLUS, we had already committed to giving the countries back to them...I swear, this is such a joke. War is now a dirty word and we've now gotten to the point where not only can you have war protection, not only can you fight with just c3's and hide your assets, but you can now have the largest fed in the game, staff the largest standing army and call yourself an 'econ' fed and call it asset raiding when you get attacked by a small group of players WHO WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU MOST OF IT BACK ANYWAY. You are not an econ fed when you have a

Simply put... if you dont want to play the game, which war is a HUGE part of then, buy WP and stay peaceful. No using c3 to attack other players. We have put our ASSets on the line against a much greater opponent in numbers and assets. It is impossible to have huge armies in countries and expect somebody to believe you are peaceful, or econ only.

The MOB is a small group of players. How could 5 players make so much noise? If we were asset raiders only then we would have hit the weak playes, and not spent the time and assets to hit the big players. We took on the best of the biggest. How is that unfair?

War is a part of the game. Granted losing isnt as fun as winning, but it never is. Just play the game!!!

150T in military assets for an econ player??

Maybe 'e was an arms dealer.

Well said White Boy

A message from the Econ Players:

Bump

Yes, war IS a part of the game, but


1.) Some of these players are the same ones complaining on other forums that otherplayers are ruining the game for other
players (Wendy) but it turns out you're all just whining because her actions and the way she plays arenwhat've way YOU want her to play. You don't care about SC

2.) Assets and fed size don't matter when players are inexperienced, don't have the will, or don't have the time to fight BECAUSE they are here to play peacefully.

3.) War is part of the game. So is hostile bidding, WP, SM, and C3 warfare but you've all complained against these things.

4.) Yes, there are very few who want to play the war part of this game. That's why there are very few wars.And you have more than the 5 you brought to WG. You have your friends and allies on the other planets that your either too friendly to fight with or are alre

And, the same people that threatened and attacked people who didn't have military assets to defend their shit before, now say that if you have mil assets, it makes you open game.

So WP is the only option now. Either stay in WP or we attack you. Why not? I'm sure the GMs will love it. I'm SURE that will make the game better. Everybody WPs up and you guys complain that everybody is in WP and nobody wants to fight.

Laguna was right.

Your right BC. It should be interesting...at least to the GMs. Either they lose a lot of long term players over this thievery or they make alot of money from all the GCs spent to stay in WP and protect your empires.


Brutus

I wish some people would define what is the "right" way or the "wrong" way to use a C3 in war?

Is it wrong to nuke from a c3, but right to use one in an infinitely more devastating way, such as launching conventional assaults(of varying types)from many players, using a coordinated team style approach?

When does a C3 become something more then a C3? When one dumps a few pop in to get it around 16mil?

C3's should stay available for war period. you guys just proved this very point with this war.

And, to threaten players should they resort to C3 tactics of their choosing with...I forget the exact words...with something like nuclear..blah, blah blah.

i almost spit my coffee on myself when I read that one.


I've stayed quite because I have no horse in this race. But, I believe my history gives me the deserved right to spout off every now and again. plus, i have nothing

Intresting opinions. I do have a question or so and some observations.

First, there is a provision for econ only players, called WP. If you are econ, then get WP. But have no ability to carry on war with another pres. Because remember econ is not military. Simple solution really.

The issue with c3 style fighting is not because some choose to fight with a c3. The issue lies in the fact that they put nothing at stake while trying to gain alot. Fight with 10 c3's, its ok, but have something to back up your actions other than a worthless c3.

Another question though. How should the war part of the game be exercised? By popular vote on the forums?

I understand there are diffrent views on this subject, and no doubt there is no perfect solution to the issue. But there are plenty discussions over why there shouldnt have war, is there any as to why there can be war? One discussion say no picking on noobs, no problem with tha

Anyone is a target, even me.

WP is expensive.

Some people can be virtuosos with C3's. I prefer they stay for my own selfish reasons. And the stakes? Well there is more then just assets in this game now isn't there? Some things are worth MUCH more then coin;)

Some people dont like war, not me I love it.

Who have we attacked that DIDN'T have military assets and defense, get your facts straight BC. We always have and continue to hold the opinion that players who want to play the econ game and not be bothered with war should be allowed to do so, as such we've attacked no one who couldn't defend themselves.

This is a game and like any other game there are things about it you like and things about it not so much. It's like I just said to Jo, when playing basketball, you may really only enjoy shooting...but you still have to pass and play defense...it's part of the game, you don't get to selectively choose which parts you enjoy and forget the rest. There is a part of SC that players can enjoy selectively as it's own game, the econ side, they can choose to have secured and war protected countries. However when you are running a 1300 def index and a 500+ off index with 400T in mil assets, you have CHOSEN to play the war

If somebody gives you a reason to war. It happens (or used to happen) all of the time. These people generally deserve it or provoke it and sometimes enjoy it.


If you don't want to hear people bitching about war, don't bring it to the forums, and don't try to act like your just the guys trying to have fun and it should be fun for everybody or they shouldn't playthe game.

Just do your business. If you want to be the aggressive, war fighting "bad guys", suck it up and do it. Quit trying to convince people that you're in the 'right'.