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Peace between the UC and LDI

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The Grand Poobah (Golden Rainbow)
01 Jan 2009 00:30 Link
Sam,
The Great war is over and the wounds are healing. Ameche was the catalyst for Great War. Their will be no apologies. Dirt has sold countries to DW and Dac and business between the two feds is growing steadily.

No one can claim that the war wasn't good for the Stagnet GR economy and social network. I.E. about a year ago I hit my highest ranking (at the time) of 20th. My score was only 1270. Now, a score of 1270 would only have me ranked in the low hundreds. Think of it like Dead heading a rose bush. Clip off the old and dieing heads to promote new growth.

By now you should know that for sum reason, a fed was formed (the UC) by a group of stubborn and tanacious, hard headed individuals. I wouldn't fight the UC.

Now Sam, I have given and will continue to give insight on this subject. I have, however, stayed out of the Fray due to RL constraints. You then decide that my comment, about your feds exploiting a loop hole, was worth a war dec. Now, you should know better than to tempt fate. I could just open up my schedule a bit. Your choice.

my suggestion. Leave GR. Those who owe Dirt countries, sell them to him.
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General Dirt
01 Jan 2009 00:45 Link
" ok turd ball for the last time wild and barney took your sawg. If you have something constructive to add fine if not stfu!"


Did you not dec on me in that preemption? Guilty as charged. I don't care if in the end you didn't have the ammo to acttually take a country, but you most certainly took part. I lost 4 countries. Barney will sell me 1. You will sell me 1. If not, hellz bellz. I promise that you'll spend more gc hiding in wp that you would to just sell me a country. As a business man I advise you to take the deal.

Sam,
"If you wish to apologize for the hostile actions you have taken on GR against AF, Ameche and your actions on LU I will happily do the same. If you wish to avoid that I will not be held to a double standard. "

That war was none of your business. AF and UC had many tensions that didn't involve LDI whatsoever. YOU injected yourselves and got pwnded for it.
The main cause for the war was Ameche and it will be a cold day in hell when anyone says sorry to that tool.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
01 Jan 2009 02:26 Link
At least Sam finally admits that Wendy was not the real reasons for your heinous crimes.
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jason (Little Upsilon)
01 Jan 2009 03:02 Link
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1. LDI will make public apologies to myself and the various parties that LDI has attempted to control through the use of war, threats, and hostile banter. The list should include Wendy, Dirtrocker, Dizzy and John L. and any others who want to post here with their grievances.

2 LDI will start to refrain from bullying people around ie leave people alone and let us play this make believe <!-/Quote-!>




sorry for the damages, I hope you are big enough to apologize for your deeds too, and you want this to end peacefully now.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)
01 Jan 2009 06:25 Link
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009!!!!
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John L (Little Upsilon)
01 Jan 2009 06:36 Link
Happy New Year!!
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Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)
04 Jan 2009 21:33 Link
Greetings all of the noble sim people.

Just a quick note to say I just cannot be bothered with all these details right at the moment. I am just too busy!! My entertainment is of highest priority!! Since you fine sim people decided that the cease fire is all important to you, and no longer want me to have so much fun that I was ROFLMBO by nuking LDI. Therefore I have opted to hit the slopes. Yes it is ski season and I need a great out door activity to while away the hours. All messages and concerns can be forwarded to me at Big Mountain in Montana. You are all invited to join me for some excellent ski conditions. But If I see any LDI members I will throw snowballs at you. You can click on this link to see how the ski conditions are.



ski conditions




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There is still a situation to be resolved involving Nute's two war slaves next to Sam on Little Upsilon. Due to time restraints this will be resolved ASAP to cement this agreement. However, the ceasefire is still in effect and all terms hold true despite this momentary setback.<!-/Quote-!>





Sorry Mr. Caretaker. ASAP for me might be a while but I will not fire any more nukes at them LDI cats. I am sure you and Mr. Stuart can understand. As you Mr. Caretaker did not have the time to set an apointment with me to discuss the situation. Additionally Mr. Stuart carelessly failed to keep a set apointment with me to discuss the situation nor did he seem to have time to reschedule. So without further words I must bid you all farewell as the slopes are calling and I just cannot be bothered with all this fuss. Like my dear aunt Bea used to say much ado over nothing.


Mr. Nute Gunray the Viceroy
Chairman of THE BLUE TEAM on Little Upsilon

Chairman of United Confederation on Golden Rainbow
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
04 Jan 2009 21:49 Link
Nute, I did go online and waited for you to arrive. I was having issues with my internet for a few days though, as im sure others can tell you I kept on having to restart my puter due to connection issues, so that may be why I didnt see you.

Still, LDI have kept to there side of the agreement now I ask that you do the same. I do apologise for not speaking to you on MSN, but as you can see from the above - its not my fault. You are free to speak to Vodafone though who at the time were supplying my 3G broadband. It is now normal land based so this problem should not reoccur.

As I say, please accept my apologies and as I have asked; please revert to the agreed peace treaty.

Thankyou dude.
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Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)
16 Jan 2009 03:58 Link
The countries in question are still in place.

Please follow the terms and dump these countries.
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Nute Gunray (Little Upsilon)
16 Jan 2009 05:13 Link
Greetings to all the fine sim country presidents and CEOs. I have been having a blast with the ski trip.
However, I was truly missing this world of make believe. So now it is back to business.

So first things first. I wish to extend a great big note of thanks to both Ms. Wendy ShcyzMattiCa of Little Upsilon, and Mr. Crossdale of Little Upsilon for offering rebuttals to the outrageous demands of the unscrupulous, and psychotic Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon a.k.a Mr. Sam Houston a.k.a Quetzalcoatl God of War. For your bold defense for my rights I am truly grateful.

Next I must address the fact that upon my return to the office my Administrative Assistant, Ms. Cindy Blue has reported to me that neither Mr. Dubhthaigh of Little Upsilon a.k.a Caretaker, nor Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon has attempted to contact me concerning setting up a meeting to try to work out some kind of of a peace agreement. Perhaps all of Ms. Wendy's and Mr. Crossdale's rebuttals finally made you realize the error in Mr. Houston's line of logic. I am more inclined to believe that you feel that your time is perhaps more valuable then mine. Additionally, I am inclined to believe that you think that my thoughts on the state of this conflict do not matter. Whatever the case may be I suppose I do not really care what your excuses may be. I will state for the record that I do not believe you were ever willing to listen to my side of this whole grizzly and cruel war between myself and LDI. Nor were you prepared to be faithful, and neutral mediators, but that your real agenda was to try to force upon myself and my federations your own ideas of how the conflict should be solved.

This leads me to my next topic. I have consulted with both my accountant and my lawyer concerning the ramifications of your proposed peace agreement.

Mr. Jim Wiess, my accountant, advised me that I should not give up any of my countries. He stated that he believed that the amount of entertainment derived from the countries that I own provided the greatest return of all of my entertainment investments. He also stated that W3 Creative had indeed made a mmog that is a worthwhile investment. He further stated that just because some nosy third party tries to impose their will on me does not mean that I have to go along with their belligerence. Finally, he went on to state that the very fact that Mr. Houston was so angered over the fact that I was not dumping any of my countries was well worth the 30 gold coin per month rent that simcountry charges.

Mr. David Greer my lawyer offered several worthwhile insights as well. First he asserted that Mr. Caretaker's proposed peace agreement was not a binding agreement for me since I had not agreed to it in either a written or a verbal format. Additionally, this agreement is not binding for the United Confederation Federation as our charter has very specific language concerning all such international agreements:

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Article II, Section 3, Agreements:
No agreement is considered official unless both a majority of members of The United Confederation have approved of it and the agreement is in writing. Until an agreement has become official it will only be considered binding with the member that proposed the agreement and the other player, federation or common market. No agreement made should sacrifice any member of The United Confederation who has not violated this Charter.<!-/Quote-!>




Mr. Greer also stated that since the 2 countries of mine that are in question were never involved in the war with LDI, and that their worth is much more than that of a C3 that they should in no wise be considered as "war C3s." Conversely there are 2 of Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon countries that were involved in the war and are about equal in worth to a C3. So I will assert that if anyone should be dumping any countries it is that Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon should dispose of his 2 war C3s: Shooter One and Shooter Two.

I will however make no such outrageous demand of Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon. I believe that he should have the same freedom that I am seeking, to run his empire however he sees fit. This is something that I had tried to impress on Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon. I will not give in to anyone's desire to impose his or her will on me and on the way that I run my empire. You Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon said you did not want to allow this to occur either, but what about this statement from you.

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Hey All. I have been approached by a member of LDI who states that certain opposing countries are still in place in violation of the peace treaty.

I am informed that all LDI members have withdrawn to an agreed distance, and would appreciate it if opposing forces could do the same.

There are also countries which retain there 'war name', and if these could be changed, it would ensure peace for a slightly unstable LU.

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You Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon are even trying to dup everyone into thinking that there is a peace treaty, when at the very most what we have is a cease fire agreement. There is a big difference.

Finally I ask for you to consider this Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon you made the following statement in another thread that is exactly opposite to what I perceive you have tried to formulate in this thread.

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Ah. Thanks for the quote Sam. Anyway, I take it that you are the agressor here Wendy? As a neutral bystander, surely that if an innocent country is attacked, they have the right to either defend themselves or offer peace on their terms? The agressor in any situation should not be able to dictate peace terms, but should wait and see what is offered or agreed to, unless they have been continuously proveked. Have you been continiously provoked Wendy?<!-/Quote-!>


It is my belief that since LDI was the aggressor I should have the right to defend myself against LDI. Furthermore that LDI should not be dictating any terms towards me or towards any of the presidents in my confederations. So perhaps you Mr. Stuart Taylor of Little Upsilon should start minding your own business and remain a "neutral bystander." Because the following statement is how I am now prone to perceive you.




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The purpose of every belligerent is to impose his will on his opponent. Trying to induce others to abide by one's wishes is a common human aim, applicable to individuals and groups as well as nations. The only distinction between ordinary human disputes and war is that war is an act of violence in which one side exerts force against the other side. If a side could attain its purpose without force it, of course, would do so, since no nation will attack unless there is resistance. For this reason the nineteenth-century Prussian theorist Carl von Clausewitz defined war as the continuation of national policy by other means.<!-/Quote-!>



So MY final answer is I will keep what is mine and I shall not entertain further discussion to any opposing demands.!!!


Final thoughts.
The more I have had to deal with the LDI and various others that are wanting to post in these forums in opposition to Ms. Wendy ShcyzMattiCa of Little Upsilon, the more I realize that she sees a valuable truth.
I would like to shout that truth out to all of simcountry "Belligerents beware!! You may think you are so powerful but in reality it is just a game, and I do not care just how powerful you might think you are. If you want to confront me with an unprovoked war I am going to hurt you. As was noted in another thread my army got stronger but LDI's army shrunk.
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In closing my real life boss is overjoyed that I unleashed such a tumultuous assault of nuclear disasters against LDI, and continued to encourage me to "Nuke em some more, nuke em again for me!!!" Mr. Johanas Bilderburg of Little Upsilon lay down your King! Now!



Mr. Nute Gunray the Viceroy

Chairman of THE BLUE TEAM on Little Upsilon

Chairman of United Confederation on Golden Rainbow
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Johanas Bilderburg
01 Feb 2009 08:33 Link
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Crossdale (Little Upsilon)
Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 08:16 am Click here to edit this post Anyone that joins LDI will be destroyed. LDI is full of liars, backstabbers, soothsayers and filth. The name Lacerta Defense Initiative is no longer legendary and has been covered in filth. Consider this me being courteous to any noobs getting ideas to join this federation on LU. Yes i will lead by example and be the first to stop anyone from making any mistakes in this game. Joining LDI would be your biggest mistake and would not look good to any true vets if they find out your affiliated with LDI.<!-/Quote-!>



Might as well have this out in public. And the peace thread is as good a place as any. Whats your beef Dizzy. Spit it out. I am sick to death of all the whispering and backroom dealings going on. Say your piece. I am listening as is everyone else.
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Crossdale (Little Upsilon)
01 Feb 2009 08:42 Link
You think switching threads or running to others is going to change the situation? Actually you just made it worse.
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Johanas Bilderburg (Little Upsilon)
01 Feb 2009 18:34 Link
What exactly are you talking about? I made a thread. UC members spammed it. I thought my response was a polite as possible in such a situation.

You are not making any sense whatsoever.
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Johanas Bilderburg
02 Feb 2009 16:13 Link
I have an idea Dizzy. You should go back to GR where people care about your extremely random threats of simviolence.

As for me I can only offer you this apology...


/me holds up both middle fingers.

two fingers=peace sign right?
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Crossdale
02 Feb 2009 17:05 Link
:)
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GameMiser
29 Apr 2020 08:49 Link
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Johanas Bilderberg
30 Apr 2020 14:00 Link
This is a random and unpleasant thread to necro.