Medical marijuana- full blown legalization or continued criminalization (Little Upsilon)

There a good video on youtube bout cannabis! Check it out! The truth about cannabis

The Criminalization of Marijuana
The Saga

1. In the Early of Days, Marijuana and Hash were widely used in the U.S.
2. It comes under fire from Pharmacutical companies lobbyists.
3. The DEA creates an Antimarijuana Unit. The head of the Unit is quoted as saying "Why waste the time and rescources to attempt to eradicate a weed? I can look over the Potomic and see Cannabis as far as the eye can see"
4. The "Public Service announcements" begin. To "educate" the masses. Such claims as Psycosis, pervertions and violance are direct affects.
5. "Reefer Madness" is made. Also, the worst movie ever made.
6. It's name is changed from the Latin "cannabis" to the Mexican "Marijuana" to make it seem foriegn...mainly Mexican
7. Is used as an excuse to deport Mexican Nationals.
8. Used to take away poor peoples rights to vote. (yes over a PLANT!!!)
9. The illegalization is found (in court) to be unconstitutional. The Feds claim "We don't need to follow the constitutional laws if its a "Narcotic"". It remains illegal.
Victims are convicted in the upwards of 30yrs for 1 joint.
10. From school on, kids are taught that it is illegal. Kids turn to alcohol assuming it is less harmful, because it's legal.

And that my friends is the Big Bag of American made Bullshit that I call the "A Great American Hippocracy- The Marijuana Saga"

I have done the research and I have written several papers on this and the only thing that I will add to the truth of what Poobah said is:

1. Textile and paper companies went after marijuana.
2. Military was widely using hemp rope at the time.
3. Reefer Madness campaign was also a result of a failed prohibition.
4. Utah, being a heavily church influenced state, was the first state to criminalize it.

Dope is for dopes...

/me looks at Austia.

Case in point.

Sam, Dope is not marijuana. if you go onto the streets and hit up a good dealer and normally you buy weed and this time you ask for dope. He is gonna wonder why your wanting heroin.

Gladly I am not down with the drug lingo.

I don't really think it should be criminal to smoke weed. Stupid. Waste of life. But not criminal. Unless smoking weed causes you to behave irrationally.

<!-Quote-!>Quote:

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Authorities said a man wearing a sleeping bag as a cape and carrying a screwdriver as a weapon tried to rob someone in the parking lot of a Gainesville business.

Police said a 46-year-old man approached the intended victim early Sunday morning and asked for money.

When the man refused, police said the man threw off the cape and pulled the screwdriver from his waistband. The other man quickly ran into a store and called 911.

The suspect was arrested a few blocks away and charged with attempted armed robbery. He was being held on $20,000 bail.<!-/Quote-!>

Case in point.

um...it never says what he's on. He could have (and more than likely) been under the influence of several intoxicants. Or he could have been just crazy. I am infact...BLAZED right now and I have no intentions of running around in a Sleeping bag cape, robbing people...with a screwdriver...

/me shakes head...

and Dope...DOPE!!!! if you asked my regions stoners for "Dope" you'd get a nasty look and a "I don't smoke that crap! Get away from me, you punk ass Tweaker!".


I don't care...Weed should be legal. But, it couldn't be taxed because no one wants to buy generic, company grown ick weed. (Could you imagine mass produced weed? Bleh!) Everyone would rather just buy the sticky, finger licky, Danken Bubonic Chronic. Oh yeah, baby! You know you want it!

G-13... good shit and guess what your very own government provides it

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29099116

Case in point.

I skipped most of this as most of this is the same tired arguments. The one thing I noted is some bashing of the libertarian stance that it should be legalized. Sorry FB, normally you are right on. In this case there is no inconsistency. You see, you look at it as if you are changing one thing, namely legalizing pot. From that standpoint, yes, there are ancillary problems. However, given a comprehensive libertarian makeover, it is totally consistent mainly because many of the things the government is doing and shouldn't or isn't doing and should would be changed if a true libertarian philosophy dominated the US instead of the ridiculous two party system in place in the US now.

@sir Michael
Interesting. My balls sucked up into my stomach for a second.

BUT

That is one study.
another study says that marijuana has cancer FIGHTING properties.

"The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said."

Check out a movie called "Super High Me". The subject takes a physical after being sober for a month. Then smokes weed for a month and takes another physical. Along with SATs and Sperm counts.
Suprise suprise! the sperm count is HIGHER after a month of toking.
now that may lead to cancer, I can see how.
But Damn I must be potent!

Thank you for the kind words, Archangel. However, I am not a Libertarian but do have those inclinations on some issues.

This issue is one reason why I subscribe to no particular political ideology.

While this issue, for me personally, ranks somewhere behind the color of the wallpaper my wife has selected for a guest bathroom, I just go with my gut on it.

My experience with controlled substances, alcohol included, has been that they have no redeeming social value and generally aid people in making a mess of their lives.

Can some handle it? I imagine that many do. But many do not, and given the proclivities of our nanny state, I don't believe we need more self inflicted victims to subsidize.

One further question. If pot were legalized, it stands to reason that commercial production and sale would follow. The tobacco industry was extorted, excuse me, sued by the states for the damage their products have wreaked upon society. Would we forthwith be bringing legal action against the Pot industry?

FB.

Where would the world be without Bob Marley, Jhon Lennon?
They used a substance that helped them reach places, that due to the pressures of life, most people would'nt even bother to look at. Love.

And where would the soldier be without that shot of rum to give him the courage to die?

Sure, they all embark on a journey of self destruction, but most do it for the search of answers and conclusions to help society in a greater good. And which without an aid might never be found.

Everything all substances should be made legal to use. But if you are caught in possesion of one you should have all the money you have on you taken off you. That should cover the fines lost.

Then, I think, the majority of the users would be the ones who use substances as a tool, and would therefore be rarely be seen in public. Let alone running around robbing people dressed as the sleeping bag crusader.

My Report

I Live in Harrisburg the capital of Pennsylvania. When William Penn(the true founding father) came to the Americas he made contact with the Delware Indains. Smoking their peace pipe AKA Mary Jane lead to and long friendship and them helping us in the American Revolution.

Next my experience's that screwdriver guy had to be a crack head, aka cocaine, aka chocolate. It all comes from the same plant, and you wonder why people get addicted to chocolate and coffee, it is cocaine not in a powder form.

Mary Jane helped me pass High School I have ADD, Maryjane keeps my mind focused. Now me sober I am the energizer bunny and cant stop moving. I cant take ritalin it maked me violent(F%@!'s with my Hormones) same with Adderal.

Next I can't drink Achool that much Achoolism runs in my family. Meaning achool isn't just bad for the present.

I NEVER EVER EVER, ran into a person who smoke and want to make it noticeable by robbing people. Crack, meth, cocaine, heroin, etc. different story they don't care what happens the drug makes them feel invincible like superman. There forth causing crime.

Maryjane is a race/poverty issue. Still showing the racism in America. Take it from Grand Pooh who did his resreach or watched the History channel. For God sake when legal our President, Head of State, and Generals smoke with the Sultan of Morocco, and Arabia to commence a trade agreement and alliance. So what does that tell you?

The realization that the Blacks, and Mexicans could get rich off of the booming industry scared Rich White Man America at the time shit less. Still don't believe me Prohibition was inacted to keep Irish, and Germans in Ireland and Germany at that time we were being over run by immagrants mostly Irish, and Germans who came over with there recipes for brew and started making multi-million dollar companies(Budweiser, Coors, Millers, Yuegling). Being that these companies found new ways to make money in the prohibition era defeated the whole propose of prohibition(and the fact that the Italian Mafia almost took over America because of it).

Maryjane should be legal being that Gold, Oil, and Drugs is what makes the money go round. Not Charmin's toilet paper or Wal-mart. In fact if it wasn't for Maryjane America would be hurt seeing that it came at a time when we were still in debt off of the Revolutionary War, and the Louisiana Purchase. It boosted a textile Industry that was hurt after the Civil War NO MORE SLAVERY = NOT AS MUCH PRODUCTION = 60% of America's Income at the time. Remember the Steel and Coal Industry didn't come around till mid/post depression era(WORLD WAR II).

America acts like it a God fearing freedom nation. In many was compared to alot of other place they are right. But God fearing.....lol thats funny. Then again I agree with Framerbob and no I am not an old geezer, but I do not want my buddy next to me high while we are walking/driving down main street Baghdad.

Marijuana was prosecuted mainly in part because prohibition was a complete failure. If you are ever bored and feel like being educated.

Hemp for Victory

Reefer Madness

Reefer Madness was the propaganda used to try and ban it. Hemp for Victory was used to get farmers to grow pot during WW2

With a Pot Smoking Regards,
Dragoon