Military. units running outta supplys and fuel

What's up gm? 4 6 game months now this has happnd,its a never ending cycle! I haven't changed anything and i am 4 year vet(hbefore u suggest I'm making a noon error)!!!!! What gives? I'm growing tired of the errors

Same here, and I haven't even used my units since I fully replenished my units.

The gms have changed parameters to increase def costs to try and cause people to have to possibly buy game money in my opinion due to the vast numbers of people who have quit to maybe supliment the lost revenue. I will prob get banned from the forum for this post

I don't follow on defense costs. I make silly amounts of cash through game econ. I also have the largest continually deployed military, that I am aware of, in the game, an army of 14 million on LU alone. The opportunities are there. My empire shows the realm of the possible.

That said, I have noticed some supply issues out there that could use improvement. There seems to be some issues both with countries ordering adequate military products and delivery of those products to deployed units.

I WASN'T including players such as yourself but the game consist of 90% new players witch a small increase in def cost could cause the need for new players to MAYBE BE MORE INCLINED TO PURChASE GAME MONEY.JUST MY OPINION.im fully aware of your empires military and eco strength Aries and I make more than enough to double my military size and not need to purchase game money. This is just another pain in the ass issue to add to the long list of pain in the ass issues that I think are not errors or bug BUT CALCULATED SMALL CHANGES.

No one should purchase game money from the GM. New players should follow my Game Level Guide or Path of a Warrior Guide on the Beginners forum to earn very large amounts of assets. On purchasing game money, you should bite your tongue. That is a terrible option for any player.

In a pinch, you should purchase the electric power I have for sale in direct trade. It sells for 6 TIMES what the GM offers you for coins. Don't suggest new players take the worst option possible in a difficult situation. A mistake in buying the terribly overpriced game cash the GM offers would be a blunder that eclipses the price that defense costs ever charged.

Wasn't suggesting they do, but the majority don't find your forum posts on this issue.if they dont,or know better then they will most likely buy game money. Bite my tongue? Who are you to tell anyone to bite there tongue.get off your high horse.im entitled like everyone else to voice there opinion.you helped me when I was new and I like you but sometimes your arrogance gets outta control my friend

There are changes in the game all the time, that is not necessarily a problem. Most often, those changes are implemented for very good reasons. Maybe this was also done with the way units use their fuel, ammunition, and resources, so that it would reflect a more realistic scenario. I just wanted to know if the increased loss that I just noticed in ammunition and other unit resources is normal :-)

Don't take such offense. You would think I was talking about your favorite pet or something. I am just saying you should temper your suggestion that new players would purchase game money with a much better option that exists. Especially since players who purchase game cash from the GM give up much more with that purchase than they lose to defense costs. That isn't opinion, that there is fact my friend and I have placed the math out there for all to see.

If you want your opinion on defense costs to come of anything, some clarification of what you are talking about would help. I have noticed all products gradually increase in base costs recently. Is that it? That has not only caused costs, in general to rise, but it also has helped income in an equal way. If your income tends to be greater than costs, this should have helped more than hurt finances. Is there some other data that you meant?

Well, defence costs as such were not the topic of this thread in the first place (or at least not in how I interpret the initial question; jammiebrown1978brown, correct me if I am wrong). What I and jammiebrown1978brown are talking about, is the suddenly increased use of ammunition, fuel, and military supplies by military units that have not been used.

In my case, this means that during the past (real life) week half of the fuel and military supplies in the military units were used (again: I am NOT talking about the costs as such, I am talking about the sudden increase in the usage of ammunition, fuel, and military supplies by military units, regardless of the effects this might have on the country's finances. Again: I am NOT, I repeat NOT, talking about the financial effects of this situations). On top of that, the units that are not being used also suddenly started using ammunition.

As an example, my two long-range divisions (each with 850 weapons) have each a target of 99,900 military supplies and 2,000 fuel. I have not been using those units during the past (real-life) week, and a week ago they were still fully replenished. When I checked today, I noticed that the levels of military supplies and fuel in the unit dropped below half of the target. I also checked my air wings (which I have NOT been using during the past (real life) week), and they experience the same issues. On top of that, I also noticed that ammunition levels were dropping in the units, even though the units have not been used, and there is not at all a shortage of ammunition or other supplies in the country stock.

So, what my question is, is whether such sudden increases in supply usage by military units is due to a change in settings (without condoning it), due to a bug, or due to the removal of a bug meaning that this is the normal situation that I have not experienced yet before.

Is my question clear? If you require any further information, I will be happy to provide it to you.

Thank you in advance for looking at this issue! :-)

Yes until the past week unless my country was at war(actually using aircraft fuel,military supply,gasoline)my units would require resupply every real life 90 days or so.now every unit is being resupplyed monthly.i annauly maintain 520 military units so that's quite abit of usage increase of all supplys

That's game months

To the refueling issue, I have noticed that units and garrisons are having issues replenishing gasoline despite having a country stock and, of course, supply units. Is this a bug?

I am having the same problem on GR. I thought it was a glitch and would eventually catch up so not a problem. Imagine my surprise when it dismantled three of my units because they hadn't been replenished despite having ample stock in my country to do so. I'm a small country with one slave and don't have plans on going to war but that message and the loss of units is really starting to annoy me

Dismantled Pinto Hill Defense Interceptor Wing
Thu Feb 4, 3661 Shortage on Interceptor Missiles.
Pinto Hill Defense Interceptor Wing has been dismantled because The Grand State of Sentura Dos has not enough Interceptor Missiles for maintenance and training of the army.

Dismantled Los Gatos Air Force Attack and Bombing Wing
Thu Dec 4, 3660 Shortage on Attack Drone Missiles.
Los Gatos Air Force Attack and Bombing Wing has been dismantled because The Grand State of Sentura Dos has not enough Attack Drone Missiles for maintenance and training of the army.

Dismantled Robless Defense helicopter Wing
Thu Sep 4, 3660 Shortage on Helicopter Missiles.
Robless Defense helicopter Wing has been dismantled because The Grand State of Sentura Dos has not enough Helicopter Missiles for maintenance and training of the army.

As you can clearly see my country has enough of the items that caused my units to be dismantled.

Item/ Cost/ Quality/ Monthly Use/ Supply

Gasoline/ 909 SC$ per ton/ 229/ 1,676,194/ 27,059,326

Interceptor Missiles/ 3.15M SC$ per missile/ 258/ 17/ 10,416

Attack Drone Missiles/ 5.08M SC$ per missile/ 263/ 2/ 12,625

Helicopter Missiles/ 3.14M SC$ per missile/ 260/ 4/ 9,954

I remember how i resolved it. Took me a day or two to realize.

Gosh it's amazing how no one has thought about the obvious.

I'll give a clue.

No one respects this commodity as much as they should.

Sunnyknight, could you please tell us what it is? I have no idea which other commodity we should respect more than we do now.

Well, I lost 2 more units overnight so the problem will correct itself here in a day or two. I'll be out of units.

To assist with identifying this issue, I suggest supplying the following data for whatever product you are having issues with, Military Supplies/Gasoline/Aircraft Fuel.

-Country
-World

From Trade->Products in stock: buy and sell

-Stock of Military Supplies/Gasoline/Aircraft Fuel
-Monthly Use of Military Supplies/Gasoline/Aircraft Fuel

From Trade->Trade overview

-Military Supplies/Gasoline/Aircraft Fuel, Amount of Units on order

From Trade->Order Strategy and Quality

-Order Quantity, Method (Default Months/User Months/In Units selected)
-Order Quantity, Low-Water Mark
-Order Quantity, Order Quantity (field)

Kebir Blue, Republic of Selene

MS monthly use: 123,445
MS stock: 1,372,529

Gasoline monthly use: 1,303,038
Gasoline stock: 117,314
Gasoline on order: 21,551,720 tons

AF monthly use: 108,150
AF stock: 3,469,892

All commodities have the following order quantity strategies:
Method: default
Low-water mark: 3
Order quantity: 14

However, how does that affect the military units using a much larger amount of ammunition suddenly, and the military units suddenly using fuel and military supplies in quantities that they have never used before when being inactive?

There is no difference between active and not when talking about units (there are no inactive units, only inactive weapons). Additionally, at peace, only garrison units are supplied by supply units. All other units are supplied automatically with every month change. What you are detecting as a difference in "use", seems to be some issue with the auto-supply not occurring or a problem in country ordering, which I have also seen. When you say the units are using more ammo, for example, is any difference detected on the trade screen or is this simply your observation with unit stocks decreasing?

I am interested to sort out instances of country ordering from simply an auto-supply issue. In the case of adequate country stocks, you may want to start polling what others are seeing specific to units. ie. Is it just interceptor and helicopter wings? Does it effect mobile units/offensive divisions/air wings, etc.? Is there a difference if your country is at war?

Thanks for the quick reply!

It is just an observation with unit stocks decreasing to levels I have never seen them before (except for wartime). And it happened in my land units (two long-range divisions) and my air units (two air and bombing wings). My supply units (one small and one large) also have the same issue. I have this issue since less than a week, so I don't know if there is a difference with a wartime situation, since my last war against a C3 was more than a week ago.

GR
the grand state of sentura dos

stock on hand:
aircraft fuel... 4,058,389
gasoline... 22,184,932
military supplies... 2,759,209

monthly use:
aircraft fuel... 412,932
gasoline... 1,680,322
military supplies... 219,675

units on order... 0

order method... user months
low water-mark... 5 months
order quantity... 15 months

Trucks.

My issue was directly related to a shortage of trucks.

Ordered in 2,000,000 at 120q, never had that issue again.

Had over 1,000,000,000 AF, Gasoline, Supplies etc etc, but it was the fricking trucks that killed me.

Currently, I have 24,043 trucks in stock, with no monthly use.

That.
Is.
Fudge.
All.

Get around 1 million. Trust me.