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Forum War & Peace How do YOU conquer a C3?

How do YOU conquer a C3?

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TattooedPriest

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27 Aug 2008 19:02Link
I am asking anyone this question that wants to share their technique of conquering a C3. I get asked this a lot. My way varies from the mainstream techniques that I have heard of. I haven't used land units to take a C3 since I was a beginner. If you have a good strategy for conquering a C3 please share some of your tips. If it sounds good I will include your name and strategy on the website I am building.
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nix001 (Fearless Blue)

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27 Aug 2008 21:45Link
NUKE EM :)
Joke Davepat, just a joke.
WOT NO LAND UNITS?
TP, I think you should start. :)
Go on TP, Tell me how U do it. :)
You tell me yours and I'll tell you mine. :)
Dam. I wish I had never worked out how to do these smiley faces. :) AHhhh
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

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27 Aug 2008 22:43Link
I just use precision bombers and fighters.

First - i take out the defending interceptors, then the airfields and military bases. Finally I take out forts then cities etc.

You can do it with one fully equipped bomber division, and one fighter squadron.

No need to use land forces at all.....
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Austia (Little Upsilon)

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28 Aug 2008 00:02Link
when using a navy- I take down the airwings first. Then the forts, Capital, cities, towns, counties and if needed corps. Use- nfp for airwings. Nfp and and guided to clear the D at targets. Then I use Cruisemissle ships to pound said target into dust.
Austia
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Lelouch (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
28 Aug 2008 01:46Link
I Second Austia's tactic. But I use NFPs to Bomb targets also.
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FarmerBob

All worlds
28 Aug 2008 05:26Link
Took mine with:
1 1000 Drone Wing
1 1000 plane fighter wing
1 LRD 2600HA/1000HT
5 SF Units

Lost a couple hundred fighters and drones.
Ammo expenditures were negligible.

Painted and destroyed 3 cities.
Took about 25 minutes.
For what its worth.....I'm no expert.
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TattooedPriest (Little Upsilon)

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28 Aug 2008 15:11Link
That sounds like a very inexpensive way to take a C3 FarmerBob. Thank you everyone for your input thus far. You wouldn't believe how often I get asked 'how do I conquer a C3' or 'what's the best way to take a C3' this thread will be a big help to all new players. I will include all information and give credit to its contributers in my website that is in the making. Thank you all.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Aug 2008 15:46Link
If the C3 is a neighbor, I use NFP and wipe out the army units. This gets rid of the Air Defense.
Then I invade and paint the country with Occupation units. When I've painted the c3 thoroughly, I start destroying capital, cities and offensive installations. If the c3 has not fallen yet then I destroy fortifications till it falls. Expected loss 2-300 NFP and expended about 40K NFP missiles.
Stay away from the Defensive airports with the NFP, this is where the air resistance will get you higher loses of NFP.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Aug 2008 16:37Link
Ok, I just had to verify my figures above. I took a neighboring C3 and lost 366NFP and 30K NFP missiles. Cost of .328T for loss NFP and 1.332T for NFP missiles for total cost of 1.6T

So if someone could give me a less expensive approach I would gladly put it in my war book.
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John L (Golden Rainbow)

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28 Aug 2008 18:27Link
Mr Priest, I hate you. LOL. Let me explain. I decided to do more testing on taking a C3. Started a war with another neighboring C3. I destroyed the army units using NFP. So far it's good. Then I destroyed the defense at the cities, war index of C3 remained pretty stable. Then seeimg this was not working very well, I destroyed the cities and wondered why my occupation units had not yet painted at least part of the C3.

Checked my units and found they have traveled a very short distance and ran out of gasoline. Checked some more and noticed they were set to operate on 83 units (Ton) of gasoline. I changed the setting and they still sat still. Checked and noticed I had a lot of supply units but they were set to set out with 23 units fo gasoline. Changed their setting to give them more gasoline.

Knowing the new setting would take awhile to take effect then I decided to destroy fortifications with Land Base Cruise. War index started
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TattooedPriest

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28 Aug 2008 23:06Link
LOL John, this is good stuff. It is funny how those of us that have been playing for awhile and know the game well and have empires need to stop and think when asked how to conquer a C3. It is obvious there is no exact science to it. I am on a quest to find the cheapest and easiest method so that I can teach the new comers. This is one of the things they struggle with most. You have all been contributing well, thank you.
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nix001

All worlds
29 Aug 2008 02:12Link
I was wondering why all my ammo corps were doing so well. Thanks TP :)
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TattooedPriest

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29 Aug 2008 02:17Link
LOL, no problem nix001.
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Adam (Fearless Blue)

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29 Aug 2008 04:24Link
For C3s that are close, I follow FarmerBob, except that I combine the Drones and Fighters. I also don't attack the air units until I have an LRD next to them (SF for within 3000km). This cuts losses for the air units.

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FarmerBob

All worlds
29 Aug 2008 05:23Link
Yes Adam. I use the same approach and forgot to mention it. Thank You.
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John R

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29 Aug 2008 13:31Link
I moon my enemies. Instant-win.
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Jo Jo Hun (Fearless Blue)

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30 Aug 2008 07:48Link
Okay, war on the cheap: for a war against a small nearby c3 (~6M pop), to conquer, no intention of keeping (no concern for war damage, civilian casualties, etc).

Units used: one Attack & bombing wing loaded with FP, drones, and bombers, and one LRD with 1000 HAV, 1000 jeeps, 120 anti-tank missile bats. Moved in LRD and painted like Mondrian. Took out defense wings with the A&B wing. Took out missile defenses with same--only the minimum needed--I did the capital and 4 of 6 cities. Used ATMB to take out land defenses in those targets. Then HAV and jeeps to take out the targets: undefended pop centers, cap, 3 cities and most of the fourth. Many clicks, well over a thousand.

Cost, as determined by adding up market value of what was lost from the two units, including weapons, ammo, fuel, and military supplies: 568.7B SC$, and 961 personnel. Time: 76 minutes, from the first vi
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Danneh Turner (Fearless Blue)

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30 Aug 2008 12:08Link
1. Go to internet cafe
2. register a new SC account
3. obtain the C3 you want to capture
4. Move things around on the map, to clear the way for invading forces
5. Make a bunch of supply units and tell every location in the country to maintain an "undefended" garrison.
6. drop war protection
7. declare war on your regular country
8. go home
9. win!

(yeah obviously I dont do this myself ... I wouldn't be seen dead in an internet cafe!)
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Pesco (White Giant)

All worlds
31 Aug 2008 18:54Link
So what about if you ARE planning to keep the conquered country, so want to keep war damage and reduce casualties?

Is there a more "precision" approach?
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FarmerBob

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31 Aug 2008 19:04Link
See the ground approach. Paint and hit a few cities.
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sfo Treasurer (White Giant)

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03 Sep 2008 20:21Link
Number one....If you are planning on keeping any country that has been involved in a recent war make sure you have plenty of construction and war hospitals. And depending on what world you are on, prepare for a re-invasion.
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Lokie (Fearless Blue)

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06 Sep 2008 22:05Link
hmm
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Austia (Golden Rainbow)

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07 Sep 2008 01:23Link
I NEVER use NFP to attack targets...too expensive for me and I'm cheap. Therefore I never use NFp to attack targets. I prefer to use LRDS to bash targets. HAA and HTA is cheaper then the rest.
Austia
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Pathetic Sheep (White Giant)

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28 Sep 2008 00:14Link
Navy fighters are cheaper because they don't get shot down as much.

The bombers, helicopters, or navy fighters you use to kill enemy units will be more efficient if you park a land unit nearby. Occupational units and special forces are cheap and can also be used to paint the map. Using fewer bombs saves a lot of cash.

Recently I used a lot of heavy artillery to destroy targets after clearing the garrison with airplanes. Heavy artillery grenades are cheaper than other types of bombs.

If you are willing to click the mouse a lot you can kill enemy civilians with jeeps and offensive armored vehicles. Since jeeps don't use ammunition this should be very cheap.
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Seth The Time Keeper (Little Upsilon)

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14 Oct 2008 02:42Link
I would like to say thanks to the people who have contributed in this thread. A year or more ago I had taking over C3s down to an art, amassed an 8 country empire... But I have long since forgotten what I did or in what order I did it.

What I do know is that my way, though effective in obtaining the country, was terrible economically. I had something like 11T+ debt after my mongering.

I hope to read these methods and perfect them so that my economy can remain stable through out my campaigns.


I have one question, whatever happened to attack drones? From what little I can grasp of back then, I had humongous hordes of attack drones, nothing else, and then overwhelmed the C3 with them.


Thanks,
Seth