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How do YOU conquer a C3?

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Tattooed Priest

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14 Oct 2008 09:15Link
refer to this link for another way to conquer a C3, it is cheap and easy but as any method it takes time and preparation and of course some spending. Once in place though, I conquered C3s in less than 30 minutes.

http://www.freewebs.com/tattooedpriest/howtoconquerac3.htm
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Treasurer (White Giant)

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15 Oct 2008 04:03Link
I like nix's NUKE EM. lol. that's too funny.
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riseaginst (Kebir Blue)

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09 Dec 2008 05:19Link
What about the target's defences? You know how it says "attack target" or "attack defences" on every city and other target, do we attack the target and ignore the defences? And also i've failed at invading a country twice =-(. Lost a whole air forces attack wing, LRD, 100+ NFPs and 100+ Navy helicopters the first time. And the second time i lost an air force attack and bombing wing, LRB and another 100+ NFPs. Why? Also, whenever i would use midrange batteries or the few cruise batteries i had, they got blown up too. Why? And this was a stupid c3!!!

Any advice would help me a ton
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General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

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09 Dec 2008 08:40Link
You MUSY kill the air wings first or they will keep defending everytime you attack..whether it be with ground or air attack.


Farmer Bob has a similiar setup as me.

1500 HA 1 mil ammo
1000 HT 1 mil ammo
500 MRMB 30k ammo

and to kill air D

1000 nfp 20k ammo
or
1000fp and 1000 drones
15k ammo and 8k ammo


Hope this helps!
Dirt
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Lordangers (Little Upsilon)

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09 Dec 2008 17:11Link
right well at the moment i am trying to take a C3 but its two countries away. can i just bomb it into submission? that easy or do i have to use units to occupy places?
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General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

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09 Dec 2008 19:33Link
bomber/drone combos are good. Also look at lcbm's and con batts...they are cheaper in the long run.
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riseaginst (Kebir Blue)

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10 Dec 2008 01:30Link
What about navy helicopters? I haven't heard anybody say that they use them in wars. Should i get rid of them and buy more navy fighters instead?
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riseaginst (Kebir Blue)

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10 Dec 2008 01:38Link
I have another question, on the Tatooed Priest's advice on conquering c'3, he said to use 150 cruise missles to attack each city. Do we level the city, attacking till its completely destroyed? Or attack once with 150 missles? And what about the defenses at each city, do we attack them first? (assuming the air defense is already taken care of) I only want to attack to conquer, and most of the time the country is far away and i have to transport the units there. So how do i take over a country less destructively? Is it better to have land forces, or just special forces to paint the map?
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

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10 Dec 2008 02:00Link
Each city till its levelled. I use 120 in an attack and 90 on forts, but i have to repeat that sometimes although rarely.

As regards Nave hellicopters, I have them, but have never used them, but perhaps it is time to experiment.....
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Tattooed Priest (Little Upsilon)

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10 Dec 2008 06:02Link
I have had nothing but bad luck with my navy helicopters. In my opinion they're a waist of time and money.
I teach to use 150 cruise missiles to attack a city with because that is how many it requires to completely destroy the city - attacking target and not worrying about it's defenses.
If you desire to conquer C3's further away you can invest in cruise ships and navy fighter planes. It actually takes less cruise ship missile to destroy targets than land based cruises. Using navy fighters you can attack the C3's first air defense wing with a round of 1000 missiles and it destroys it, attack the second wing with a round of 500 missile and that one will be destroyed. When using cruise ship missiles it will only require 120 missiles per attack to destroy cities. Land based cruise missiles require between 140 - 150 to destroy a city. I hope this helps. Please don't hesitate to ask further questions until you completely understand
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Charles III (Kebir Blue)

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10 Dec 2008 08:33Link
Another question on this topic. On your web page instruction for concquring a C3, you advice bassically a 1000 fighter unit to take out the air wing. I am reading elsewhere that using 1000 drones as "flax" in addition to the fighter is cheaper (I assume because the defence at least partially target the drones, which are much cheaper to replace.) Is there a reason you dont reccoment using drones? I am planing to take a C3 in a few days (my second one. Took my first one using the instructions on your webpage... Worked well... Thanks!), and am wondering is it might be worth adding drones to the attack wing.
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General Dirt (Little Upsilon)

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10 Dec 2008 08:50Link
Yes, 1000 fighters with 1000 drones is the only way to go unless using navy. Also know that using fighters against a bordering country has a much higher rate than using it on a distant one. If its bordering I'd say use the navy.
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Treasurer (White Giant)

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10 Dec 2008 09:42Link
Stand it it's walls and wave your arms wildly and scream these exact words....

"I'll huff, and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house down!!!!!"
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Tattooed Priest

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10 Dec 2008 11:57Link
Charles III, you are correct. I should update that. It is indeed a better method to use the 1000 drone fodder method. I suppose the reason I have taught to use just 1000 fighters is because most of the time when I conquer a C3 I use navy fighters which have no option for drones as fodder which has become a habit to think "1000 fighters". Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
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riseaginst (Kebir Blue)

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11 Dec 2008 06:13Link
I want to use my navy to conquer countries, but how many navy fighters do i need and how many cruise missle ships? Everything is so much more expensive =-(. Also cruise missles ships take about 650 men per ship vs. the cruise battery takes about 100. What would you guys do? Go with cheaper fighter planes and land based cruise or go alot more expensive sea based cruise and fighters? Or a little of both even? I'm not sure, but i do know that i will be conquering countries further away, because i'm surrounded by empires. If i go with the navy approach should i get rid of all of my land forces? and normal fighters and cruise?(except. special forces to paint map) Because i don't think my country can afford all of it.
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Oren Dekaza (Golden Rainbow)

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25 Feb 2009 00:57Link
Also be sure to scout out the country with radar planes first to make sure its got the set amount of C3 units, especially newly abandoned countries. I jumped the gun once and to my horrid surprise found a base with 5k+ defenses(1k artillery-1k tanks-def and antiaircraft missles-inerceptors); was not prepared for that lol, But I guess thats one of the reasons he left in the first place.
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Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

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25 Feb 2009 01:04Link
There is no reason to attack the military bases in a CCC.
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David Hughes (Little Upsilon)

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01 Mar 2009 23:36Link
WHAT i was halfway in a war with a country now theres a president in it i thought u couldnt take countries if theyre in a war?!?!?!?!?!?
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Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

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02 Mar 2009 02:05Link
If you are taking a country from another president a third party can declare war. It helps to check current wars.

CCCs should not be able to get a president while you are at war. However, if you don't make an attack the war will end. If think it is 6 months which is only 24 hours on LU.
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DexterK (Kebir Blue)

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09 Mar 2009 13:52Link
Ok. I'm making a bit of a mess of this. I've been trying to take a second C3 for a while now. I've been playing for a while, so I haven't just declared war on everyone the day I rocked up, but I'm doing something wrong. I painted the whole country first with occupation units, made up of mostly MIBs. Then, after finding this post, I set up an air wing of 1000 each, drones and fighters, fully armed. A Long Range Division of 1500 HA and 1100 Tanks and a mongrel LRD of leftovers, including quite a few Tanks and HA, were sent to sit next to the Air Defense (next to the capital also). The Air Defense was accounted for in one shot, costing 350ish drones. Now I attack the city defenses with the air force. I killed 2-10 of each of the defenses and lost a few hundred drones. Did this a few times. Thought the HAs and Tanks might work better on the target, not defenses. 32% damage to the city, I can't remember if there were any defensiv
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Jojo the Hun (Fearless Blue)

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10 Mar 2009 02:12Link
Dex, make sure you've completely destroyed all air defense wings. If the war drags on the C3 will put up more wings, which then have to be destroyed. Precision bombers and anti-tank missile bats are effective weapons against the targets' missile and land defenses.
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DexterK (Kebir Blue)

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10 Mar 2009 03:38Link
I think I've got it sorted. Not fast or cheap or anything. Just done.
I built 1 air attack unit, 1000 drones and fighters, 2 Land Divisions (scraps from last atempt), 170 Land Based Cruise Batteries and had a few Occupation units. The Occ Units I think can have anything so I had heaps of MIBs (bugger all ammo, you don't seem to need it). Painting can take 10-15 minutes if you keep pressing reload map to dodge around some stuff. The Airforce can take both air defences in one shot, losing 350ish drones. Maybe depending on the size of the Land Divisions parked next to them? Then I kept moving the LDs around next to targets and hitting them with the 170 LBCB. Started with the Capitol and moved around town icons. I messed up when I run out of LBC missiles with 2.80 points to go and no towns left to kill. Forts or Bases might have been better? I think Priest might have meant to have 250ish LBCBs but only use 150 in each attack so as n
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Pathetic Sheep (White Giant)

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10 Mar 2009 10:32Link
Fighters do not attack land units. Only air units. Navy fighter planes can attack land units and air units.

Set up an attack and bomber wing with 1000 bombers(or drones or mix) and 1000 fighters. Kill the air 2 defense units. Dismantle the attack and bombing wing and build a new one with 1200 bombers, and 800 fighters.

Bombers can destroy some land units they are good at this. After bombing the garrison. Use land based cruise or ship based cruise to destroy forts. You can use bombers on factories and cities. Conventional missiles are very efficient city levelers. But first bomb the garrison with bombers.

If you want to use your land units to destroy stuff you should get some navy fighter planes. Navy fighter planes can kill all land units. Blow up the garrison and then you can use the artillery to destroy the asset.

You might as well use all jeeps in land occupational units. Jeeps are cheep. Spe
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DexterK (Kebir Blue)

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20 Mar 2009 15:47Link
I'm having another crack, but I can't move into the country. I am at war. There doesn't seem to be anything in my way, and I tried a few directions. I can't think of anything else. I'll try a different country in the morning.

Dex.
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Messiah

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20 Mar 2009 17:26Link
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@Dex; Check the unit logs to see if anything is blocking it, or if it has run out of fuel.