How do YOU conquer a C3?

me personally I just let someone else conquer it and built it up then I conquer them and strip it and sell it off

I just built the units, so they are fully stocked, but I'll check the other thing. If I attack a C3 that is still in range of my airforce, but not ajoining, what do I have to do. Special Forces don't come with planes do they? I have to buy them?

I'll have to watch out for Jack. Not that there would be much I could do about it.

Dex.

yes. they are called military transport planes. You have to set them up as transport units.

While your on that page you might as well make some supply units too.

Today I attack my 4th C3, the attacks are getting more and more costlier. I used the same types of attacks but for some reason this last attack seems to cost me more casulties in planes lost and pretty much wiped out my 2 LRD Div.

Is it because I was attacking forts instead of towns?

I thought I would avoid attacking towns on this one to see if I can gain more pop later. but the results seems the same

Any tips on how to attack C3's that is not right next to my country ?

- drop 1 RDU (3000km radius)

- wait till it builds airstrip ~ offensive airport (takes 12 hours?)

- drop several SF units and "paint" the country map while waiting for the airstrip to be build. this should take the WI down to 30 or so

- when airstrip is build, drop 1 LRD on it. popular combo is 2600/1000 HA/HT

- kill defending air force, popular combo is 1000/1000 Drones/FP

- use the LRD to destroy Counties and Towns (no garrison - no casualties), then perhaps Capital, Cities, or optionally State corps.

indeed, in theory, not killing population seems beneficial in the sense you mentioned SimCEO, however, its the easiest, fastest and cheapest way how to win. the good thing is that as a rule of thumb the lower population the faster (%) growth so higher casualties are replaced quite soon.

For a new player, the combat odds of the first war or few are weighted more heavily in your favor. As you fight more wars they revert to the normal odds.

Zdenek,

You might recalculate your costs. If you take over the country you get stuck with construction. Towns and counties do not move the war index very much.

Blowing up corporations is definitely worthwhile in CCCs. The state companies do not have any upgrades. When the corporation is shut down all the cash stays in the country. I also like to think my choice of product is better than the server's

In my 3rd C3 attack I blow up just one C State Corp the result seems to be after take over almost no LLW left. Plus the country runs a lost of about 2 mil per month.

In the 4th C3 attack where I just blow up the cities and towns, I took over with only 6.2 pop remaining, however while I had worker shortages due to low Pop, the country runs a 6 mil per month profit.

If you take over right after blowing up the CCC the workers are still employed. They work in the rubble or something.

The economic conditions of CCCs vary a lot. It is worthwhile looking at the economy before attacking it. If you rebuild the corporations that you destroyed the economy should be the same as it would be if you had not. The cost of buying a production plant is comparable to the cost of construction. I usually prefer to pick my corporations and would demolish some the CCC corporations anyway.

Land invasion (can be used in conjunction with airstrips for targets up to 3000 km away)

Basic setup:

250 Anti Tank Missile Batteries - 10k ammo
1 000 Mid Range Missile Batteries - 10k ammo
1 000 Heavy Artillery - 300k ammo
1 000 Heavy Tanks - 300k ammo

rest, Fighter Planes, Attack Drones, Special Forces, alternatively Navy Fighter Planes as in previous set up***.

As usual "paint" with SF. In the mean time move LRD consisting of the mentioned in, close to a County or a Town, when in place use "attack defenses" with FP/Drone combo to draw out defending Interceptors and Helicopters. Only Drones will take losses, in two attacks, of around 400 Drones and only FP will use ammo.

When defensive air force is taken care of, LRD is free to do its job.

Personally I go for Capital first, attacking defenses with Anti Tank Missile Batteries and Mid Range Missile Batteries. This is where LRD will take heaviest losses but still quite reasonable of around 35 MRMB. Once defenses are destroyed Heavy Artillery and Heavy Tanks are can destroy the target in 3 hits for cheap.

Then I move to destroy Counties and Towns simply because they don't have garrison and can be yet again destroyed with HA/HT. In the mean time SF move around the country to "paint". After Counties and Towns are destroyed, target country is mostly "painted", WI should be pretty low.

Now we have basically 2 options. Attacking Cities or Factories. Since both have same garrison the fastest and cheapest way to win is to go for Cities, however, it might be desirable to go for Factories, their cash and workers, instead. Either way, attacking defenses first with Batteries, MRMB will take around 3-8 units of casualties each hit, then with HA/HT combo to destroy target. This way its possible to get the WI down to 0 without ever touching Cities or Factories, and their defenses, depending on our preferences.


Some math at the end, actual casualties and ammo usage when taking c3 today. Mind that "your" numbers may vary depending on several factors like targeting priorities, but it should not vary too much.


Casualties:

407 Attack Drones
61 Mid Range Missile Batteries

Ammo use:

4 647 Air To Air Missiles
847 Anti Tank Missiles
2 949 Mid Range Missiles
141 271 Heavy Artillery Shells
121 995 Heavy Tank Ammunition


Cost of unit setup (market price at time of posting):

250 Anti Tank Missile Batteries - 7 660 000
1 000 Mid Range Missile Batteries - 35 380 000
1 000 Heavy Artillery - 17 630 000
1 000 Heavy Tanks - 20 720 000

total: 75 645 000 000

Cost of ammo setup (market price at time of posting):

10 000 Anti Tank Missiles - 33 300 000 000
10 000 Mid Range Missiles - 196 800 000 000
300 000 Heavy Artillery Shells - 35 686 200 000
300 000 Heavy Tank Ammunition - 36 336 000 000

total: 302 122 200 000

Total cost of unit setup + total cost of ammo setup = 377 767 200 000


Cost of casualties (market price at time of posting):

407 Attack Drones - 10 284 890 000
61 Mid Range Missile Batteries - 2 158 180 000

total: 12 443 070 000

Cost of ammo (market price at time of posting):

4 647 Air To Air Missiles - 79 091 940 000
847 Anti Tank Missiles - 2 820 510 000
2 949 Mid Range Missiles - 58 036 320 000
141 271 Heavy Artillery Shells - 16 804 750 534
121 995 Heavy Tank Ammunition - 14 776 034 400

total: 171 529 554 934

Total cost of casualties + total cost of ammo: 183 972 624 934

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***the mentioned setup was for using Precision Bombers instead of Batteries to attack target defenses so this setup lacks 1000 Fighter Planes, 1000 Drones, Special Forces, plus ammo, in description and in setup costs, but not in casualties and ammo usage costs. In similar fashion Transport Planes are not counted in. Sorry about that but I'm too lazy to add those.

Precision bombers is a better way to take out the defenders. The base cost of a precision bomb is lower than the base cost of a mid range missile. Two p-bombs will take out a AAMB, DMB, or MIB. It takes 4 MRMs to hit a AAMB or a DMB and 8 MRMs to destroy a MIB. Also the Missile interceptors will destroy some of the mid-range missiles which adds cost.

I haven't checked the accuracy of the documentation lately.

The cost efficiency of destroying the capital, cities, towns, and counties needs to include the cost of construction after you take the country.

I want to see actual numbers! Empirical evidence my friend! The docus, and authorities, are not to be trusted! ;)

I'll get hard numbers for bombers tomorrow.

Is it normal to run into debt?
The 3rd Norby Empire

So far I have been preparing to attack a C3 and it has been costing me about 1.5T.

This money has been spent on:
-10 Long Range Planes
-20k NFP AMMO
-8K LBC AMMO
-1 AC
-30k P.Bomber AMMO

The C3 I am trying to take is out of range for a RDU.

I am planning on purchasing:

-1K NFP
-500 LBCB
-1K P.Bombers

Is there anything else I should do? Is this a good setup?

So, does one have to reduce a C3 country's war index to 0 in order to win the conflict?

Yes, you do.

And if you were wondering, I took down my first C3 with the following

1k NFP = 100k Ammo
1k P.Bombers = 100k Ammo
1k LBC = 15k Ammo

That was overkill and could prolly be used to take two, three, maybe even four C3s

bump

First thing I do is make very cheap products because Im able to do that with extremely low labor prices. Since they do not tax my super cheap products the 'enemy' nation cannot compete. And when corps move to my nation because of that, their unemployment goes way up. This in turn makes the 'enemy' nation spend more to survive and forces them into even greater debt. Then they have to acquire loans from me, cause I have all the money that they have paid me for my super cheap products.

And that is how I take over a country!

So does Red China.

Ok, I am fairly new. Every one keeps talking about using precision bombs. I cant buy them on the open market. It says to buy them directly or on the space station. The space station requires GC, which I do not have many of. So how do you buy directly?

Advertise that you need some, ask friends, get in chat. Then they send you a proposal for them and you accept or refuse. There will be a set price depending on quality so dont blame the seller if you think the price is too high.

you can always build corp. or if you have enterprise, look for a C3 corp to bid on. i gave roughly 10B for mine and got over 150 bombers with each. quality wasn't great but what the heck. just a thought.

I took a C3 with nothing but 300 fighter planes and two long range divisions.

5 LRDs and 3 AFAW/2AFABW does the trick for me