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Attack drones and Fighters

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Jeffcd1818

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05 Aug 2012 18:37Link
Did I miss something? I used to be able to set up an AF Attack unit consisting of Att Drones and Fighters, attack the defense of an undefended target with the result of destroying opposing Interceptors with my Drones taking the loss as opposed to my Fighters. I would also use Bombers and Fighters in combo if the Drones were out of range. This no longer seems to be working, where the Drones are not able to participate in the attack thus all losses are taken by the Fighters.Any insight would be helpful.
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Crafty

All worlds
05 Aug 2012 20:57Link
0_o , not good. You are sure the drones were in range?
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Jeffcd1818

All worlds
05 Aug 2012 22:28Link
Yes less than 1500
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DuGalle

All worlds
06 Aug 2012 03:39Link
Yeah, I've had the same problem. Precision bombers shields still work though.
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nix001

All worlds
02 Oct 2012 19:58Link
Wish I had read this before I threw a Bombing wing at the target :( LOL Crafty just seen your avatar pop his head up LOL
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Michael VII

All worlds
08 Oct 2012 23:30Link
I'm thinking the Air Force in this game is just for show. I don't even send them out anymore, everytime I did they seemed to always be out of range (eventhough the aircraft I was using have a range of 2000-3000 and they were going only 351) and get automatically destroyed with no damage on the target.

What the Hell?
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Crafty

All worlds
09 Oct 2012 02:26Link
So what have the GM said about this? I presume someone mailed them?
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Michael VII

All worlds
09 Oct 2012 03:58Link
Unfortunately no. I don't like using Outlook and when I hit "Contact" that is the only option I get.
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Gaz

All worlds
19 Oct 2012 14:22Link
The same thing has just happened to me. My drones didn't get touched whilst my fighters got fokked up. Is this an error or has the rules change? Anyone know? I lost over 500 fighters at war level 2.
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Crafty

All worlds
20 Oct 2012 16:39Link
I presume you newer players are remembering to have some sort of unit next to, and I mean right by, the target if you're attacking a neighbouring country?

It always was that AD would soak it up though, regardless. One of you should ask the GM to clarify.

Heh, if drones aren't getting hit, then maybe try using drones only...OK, it may take a while to take out a target, but it wont cost diddly squat.
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Gaz

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20 Oct 2012 17:17Link
Yes I had my LRD right besdides the target. But as you say my drones should be getting hit regardless. Only after my fighters were destroyed did I loose my drones so no you couldnt just use drones alone. Thats right it was fighters first then drones. Bombers still work but I alway preffered drones.
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Crafty

All worlds
21 Oct 2012 15:48Link
Well, it was worked out a while back that it was in fact cheaper to use PB as you lost far less although they cost far more. Of course, whether that still applies I dont know, and with the restricted availability on some worlds and market price changes, changes to the war machine...have to work it out.

This still doesn't alter the fact that if this is a game change I dont remember seeing any news of it, but if it is a 'bug' then you must bring it to the GMs attention. I'm not warring so it's not really appropriate for me to write them, one of you guys should.
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Gaz

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21 Oct 2012 18:14Link
Well bombers are hard to come by so wasting them as sheild's doesnt apppeal to me. If this is a game change then drones will be practically useless.
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Crafty

All worlds
22 Oct 2012 18:00Link
I hope not :(

If you had as many in stock as me...
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Crafty

All worlds
27 Oct 2012 21:30Link
So no one has got an answer to this yet? Did anyone even ask?
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Gaz

All worlds
28 Oct 2012 01:56Link
I havent asked. Doesn't the GM read the forums?
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Serpent

All worlds
28 Oct 2012 03:08Link
Drones DO NOT act as shields against int wings. They used to work, but they no longer work. I have not e-mailed the gm about it as I don't use drones anyway.
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sbroccoli

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28 Oct 2012 16:55Link
Why is this a problem really? It sounds to me like you used the drones as an exploit/contrary to the designed purpose of ADs.

It's hard to argue with a gamechange if that was the case.
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Serpent

All worlds
28 Oct 2012 17:40Link
Im not sure players were saying it was a problem as much as they were saying that it was either some sort of bug or a game change we were not made aware of.
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Crafty

All worlds
28 Oct 2012 22:30Link
Its just not right if the function of ADs has been changed without us being notified. It's not a very minor change that could be overlooked. It has obviously cost several people a lot of money and head-scratching.

So if it is a change in the war machine then it is pretty damned disrespectful toward your customers to implement it without any word from yourselves, W3C.

Thanks for your definite confirmation Serpent.
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Matthew Purcell

All worlds
31 Oct 2012 13:55Link
Well, if it's a case of range, why don't you do a deal with a neighbouring country to the one that you are attacking (and which may be nearer to your target than your country), to see if you can base your forces at a neighbours air base? You will need a supply wing and depot, but it will bring the target closer to you and easier to obliterate!
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Gaz

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31 Oct 2012 19:07Link
It's nothing to do with range. The c3 I was attacking was on my border.
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Jonni Gil

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06 Nov 2012 12:48Link
As far as I know Attack Drones were never intended to work as shields. We also haven't touched the order in which weapons in units get attacked.

When a unit attacks, the defense answers with the strongest available weapons for the job that are within range and points it at the strongest weapons in the attacking unit.

I hope this answers some questions.
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Crafty

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06 Nov 2012 21:04Link
It would appear something has changed Jonni. AD aways did get hit first by defense. I have fought many major wars and C3 wars and know this to be fact. Players are saying they no longer act as a shield to FPs.

So something has altered. Perhaps you could look a little further...Thank you.
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Gaz

All worlds
06 Nov 2012 23:05Link
I've played this game on and off for 10 years. Drones have always worked the whole time as sheilds for fighters, untill now. Im amazed that you guys dont know this. Something has deffinetly changed.