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Bleeding enterprise tax bug? (Little Upsilon)

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Kitsuné (White Giant)

All worlds
17 Mar 2011 21:26Link
The bug's fixed, but the impact was significantly higher than $50B.
Space Fox on LU was up at -561.98B SC$ when I measured it yesterday. It's now down to -148.35B SC$, which is around what it used to be before the spike. Since there's no graph for enterprise tax, and since enterprise tax is lumped together with moves and closings it's hard for us to keep track of what's going on........
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NiAi

All worlds
17 Mar 2011 21:36Link
Discussion about corp profitbility should be taken to another thread. My bug report as nothing to do with corp strats, but with enterprise tax.
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Tom Willard (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
17 Mar 2011 23:53Link
I am happy the problem is solved but I remain confused about the numbers mentioned.
the tax as it is calculated came to a level of 33% of profits but is now down to the previous levels.
however, there is a threashhold of 20B that is subtracted from the amount.

so I am surprises that the amount could be higher than the profit.

maybe it is one of the other components:
corporations bought?
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Linebacker Six

All worlds
18 Mar 2011 06:50Link
And thus the bug, Tom.

In my case in just one month:
115 billion gross profit
268 billion paid in Enterprise Tax.

No corporations built, moved, or closed (100% centainty) that would accout for the higher cost.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
18 Mar 2011 08:04Link
Indeed Linebacker, this was the case for me aswell.

Had 450-500b profit(total profts from corps), got taxed above 1T (enterprise tax)(see earlier posts). Obviously this cannot been intended, thus i posted this thread.
Did not buy any corps or anything (is at 750corp limit).

Enterprise tax last month:
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -216.67B SC$

Total Profit 428.58B SC$

Tax is now above 50% of profit. If this intended, fine, its survivable but expensive.

However, all we big CEO was taxed above "intended" levels, it was a bug. Please accept this so it aint repeated.

Also, since we was robbed cause of a bug, please restore us. Cant be that hard for GM to see what's been taxed away, and give the difference of bug tax and "real tax" back. In my case my CEO had more than 6 T cash when this began, now -1T. Only action d
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
18 Mar 2011 13:16Link
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -258.07B SC$

Total Profit 528.46B SC$

Tax in % = ~49 %

"the tax as it is calculated came to a level of 33% of profits but is now down to the previous levels. "
Wouldent seem to be the case, it more than 33% still. And no, havent given any orders what so ever in that corp all this week.

(im using NiAi Starrepublic Corp for all reporting)

Atleast its not above profits atm (as it was with the bug).

W3C, are you ppl keeping an eye on this?
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CorporatePartner (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
18 Mar 2011 13:22Link
Why would "Enterprise Tax" ever be grouped into the same "line item" as "Corporations bought, closed or moved"?

Those two have almost nothing in common (aside from being costs, basically) and serves to "hide" the real value of the tax in the financial statement.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
18 Mar 2011 21:51Link
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -402.59B SC$

Total Profit 973.24B SC$

Taxrate in %: ~41.3%

CC, i do agree. Enterprise tax ought to be a seperate post. When this tax was first introduced it might been wise
(for w3C) to hide it. But now its just plain silly.

Would anyone else with big CEO please post there enterprise tax and ratio, so when can see if this is the norm. All that info is public so dont feel scared ;)
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Linebacker Six

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 00:02Link
You answered your own question CP.
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Vidrig (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 01:06Link
I don't have any huge enterprise paying more than 40% tax (both of them pay about 25% tax now), but at least I can confirm that something was wrong with "Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax" a couple of days ago. For my eneterprises the tax was close to 150% and the effects from it can still be seen, very clearly, on the cash graphs. This occured from December 2868 to May 2869, GRT (Golden Rainbow Time). And no, I did not build or move any corporations during those 6 months.
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swann_88 (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 05:51Link
for my enterprise my actual cash dropped from ~825B to ~300B over 5 months
in the month I posted about above my income was 91B and my enterprise tax was ~160B
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 07:54Link
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -249.19B SC$

Total Profit 563.31B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~44.2%

Over 44%, ELEVEN% more than 33% (33% more han 33% ;)) It would seem to be trend that big CEO will be heavily taxed.

W3C, is this working as intended?
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 12:25Link
Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -295.64B SC$

Total Profit 618.78B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~47,7%

Seems to be a steady trend of being near 45% every month.
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Tom Willard (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 12:47Link
Can someone give a figure based on today's numbers.
These numbers are always averaged, and it takes time to stabilize.

(total could be 2 times current total + new number for this month) divided by three.
it is used in many functions to dampen large changes.

So by now, it should be lower than 30% in all cases.

Please give me an example where it is 30%+ and no corporations bought or sold and we will immediately look into it and fix it.

for small enterprises, it should be zero.

we need world and enterprise name to find it.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 19:07Link
NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU, taken from Finance Little Upsilon: Jul 5 2758

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -129.03B SC$

Total Profit 213.99B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~60%

Tom, you need any more numbers im not posting? Would you plese take a look in this CEO? it would seem it always sticks to the high end, maybe because of one of those dampening functions.

All of today, as you can see my earlier posts today, have been over 40% (44%, 47,7% and 60%). This 60% last month seems to be suffering from averanging, but always to a higher number than 30%

This CEO havent been doing any order for a week now, so only factor is enterprise tax.

So please Tom, take a look on NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU.
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 20:30Link
Little Upsilon: Jul 18 2758
NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -266.06B SC$

Total Profit 598.93B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~44,4%
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 20:33Link
My CEO seems to be suffering from this high enterprise tax, but others not so much. Looking over some other CEOs, they pay 100b less for about same numbers.

Does anyone else getting this near 50% enterprise tax?
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
19 Mar 2011 23:17Link
NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Little Upsilon: Aug 16 2758

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -351.75B SC$

Total Profit 821.77B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~42,8%
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 07:56Link
Little Upsilon: Oct 21 2758

NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -206.21B SC$

Total Profit 437.97B SC$
Enterprise tax in %:~47%


One can only dream about GMs intended 30% :/
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 12:51Link
Little Upsilon: Nov 12 2758

NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -293.88B SC$

Total Profit 658.50B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~44,6%

As we can see, tax has been the change earlier this week, been around 45% (except while the bug was in effect where the tax was around 300-400%)
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 18:32Link
Little Upsilon: Jan 2 2759

NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -247.30B SC$

Total Profit 494.75B SC

Enterprise tax in %:~50%

It would seem that somehow, its impossible to get taxed Tom's alleged 30%.
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 18:33Link
I want my muuney!
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NiAi (Little Upsilon)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 20:58Link
Little Upsilon: Jan 22 2759

NiAi StarRepublic Corp on LU

Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -153.22B SC

Total Profit 298.59B SC$

Enterprise tax in %:~51,3%

It would nice to not be bugged, or victim for a unknown factor for this tax.
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Kitsuné (Kebir Blue)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 21:52Link
I just checked and for me, enterprise tax seems to vary between 27 and 36% depending on which enterprise I look at.
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CorporatePartner (Golden Rainbow)

All worlds
20 Mar 2011 22:49Link
Check all of your country's "Corporation Tax" income over the past several world months. It appears to have mysteriously dropped or gone to 0.

That is the total tax collected by countries from all corporations each world month, adjustable between 0 - 75%. At 1% tax, it has been giving either 0 or close to 0, when it should be around 2B per world month.